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      I can't speak for the DSLAM side of things, but I have a <a><span
          class="panel">P-870H-51A V2 as my VDSL2 CPE. It has worked
          flawlessly in bridge mode.<br>
          <br>
          http://www.speedtest.net/result/3159924120.png<br>
          <br>
          Matt.<br>
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      On 12/12/2013 3:48 p.m., Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Is this the ADSL or VDSL ones?  Just confirming?
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>If it is the VDSL ones... what CPE's was it tested with.</div>
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        </div>
        <div>If it was the ADSL ones... that TP isn't too bad is it?</div>
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              ...Skeeve</div>
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              <div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve
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        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Peter
          Blackford <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:peter@onemetric.com" target="_blank">peter@onemetric.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">1) Throughput was the problem we had with the
              ADSL2+ Zyxel - it was maxing out at around 15Mbps / port.
              <div><br>
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              <div>This is from a pizza box Zyxel DSLAM</div>
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                    src="cid:part11.02050803.02040301@shakesbeare.com"
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                <div class="gmail_extra">Just be aware that lead time is
                  about 6 weeks between ordering and delivery.<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On 12 December 2013 12:57,
                    Guy Ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:guy@traverse.com.au"
                        target="_blank">guy@traverse.com.au</a>></span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                        <div>Hi Skeeve,<br>
                          <br>
                          1) Throughput was the problem we had with the
                          ADSL2+ Zyxel - it was maxing out at around
                          15Mbps / port.<br>
                          <br>
                          <p><b>2) Australia/New Zealand—Melbourne</b><br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="tel:%2B61%203%209658%200500"
                              value="+61396580500" target="_blank">+61 3
                              9658 0500</a><br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="tel:%2B61%203%209658%200599"
                              value="+61396580599" target="_blank">+61 3
                              9658 0599</a> fax<br>
                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:sales.australia@adtran.com"
                              target="_blank">sales.australia@adtran.com</a></p>
                          <br>
                          3) We are ETSI and don't forget it - our cars
                          run on petrol not gasoline!<br>
                          <br>
                          4) The Host model includes a management node
                          and will run stand alone.<br>
                          Client model needs an upstream Host for
                          management.<br>
                          Depending on your topology you may need both
                          types.<br>
                          I'm sure their friendly sales guy will help
                          you ;-)<br>
                          <br>
                          Cheers,<br>
                           - Guy.
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                              On 12/12/2013 12:21 PM, Skeeve Stevens
                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Guy,
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>I'd like to know more about why you
                                  think the ZyXEL's weren't good.</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Also, the Adtran's also look
                                  interesting.  Any contact to get some
                                  pricing/info?</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Might be a stupid question.. but in
                                  AU and NZ are we ANSI or ETSI?</div>
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div>Also not  sure what they mean by
                                  Host and Client models.</div>
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                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
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                                  <div dir="ltr">
                                    <div><br>
                                      ...Skeeve</div>
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                                      <div><b
                                          style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve

                                          Stevens - </b><span
                                          style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego

                                          Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
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style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper - Cisco </span><span
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                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 12,
                                  2013 at 11:54 AM, Guy Ellis <span
                                    dir="ltr"><<a
                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
                                      href="mailto:guy@traverse.com.au"
                                      target="_blank">guy@traverse.com.au</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                      <div>Based on our ADSL2+
                                        experience I wouldn't go near
                                        Zyxel with a barge pole.<br>
                                        <br>
                                        Instead take a look at the
                                        Adtran 1248V - they are not
                                        expensive and are carrier class.<br>
                                        They even have a local engineer
                                        in Melbourne!<br>
                                        <br>
                                        <br>
                                        On 12/12/2013 11:43 AM, Skeeve
                                        Stevens wrote:<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">Hey,
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Anyone have any
                                            experience with these:</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.zyxel.com/au/en/products_services/ves1724_56.shtml?t=p"
                                              target="_blank">http://www.zyxel.com/au/en/products_services/ves1724_56.shtml?t=p</a></div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>48 port VDSL2 DSLAMs.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>If so, opinions
                                            welcome...  Costs would be
                                            interesting to know.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Any sales contacts in AU
                                            or NZ would be welcome too.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div><br clear="all">
                                            <div>
                                              <div dir="ltr">
                                                <div><br>
                                                  ...Skeeve</div>
                                                <div><br>
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                                                <div>
                                                  <div><b
                                                      style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve


                                                      Stevens - </b><span
style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
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