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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Skeeve,<br>
      <br>
      1) Throughput was the problem we had with the ADSL2+ Zyxel - it
      was maxing out at around 15Mbps / port.<br>
      <br>
      <p><b>2) Australia/New Zealand—Melbourne</b><br>
        +61 3 9658 0500<br>
        +61 3 9658 0599 fax<br>
        <a href="mailto:sales.australia@adtran.com">sales.australia@adtran.com</a></p>
      <br>
      3) We are ETSI and don't forget it - our cars run on petrol not
      gasoline!<br>
      <br>
      4) The Host model includes a management node and will run stand
      alone.<br>
      Client model needs an upstream Host for management.<br>
      Depending on your topology you may need both types.<br>
      I'm sure their friendly sales guy will help you ;-)<br>
      <br>
      Cheers,<br>
       - Guy.<br>
      <br>
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      <br>
      On 12/12/2013 12:21 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAEUfUGMn-_Gts_+93NSLSpiKn5EX7P-aFiucg5mX=UNpTxrM=Q@mail.gmail.com"
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      <div dir="ltr">Guy,
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        <div>I'd like to know more about why you think the ZyXEL's
          weren't good.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Also, the Adtran's also look interesting.  Any contact to
          get some pricing/info?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Might be a stupid question.. but in AU and NZ are we ANSI
          or ETSI?</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Also not  sure what they mean by Host and Client models.</div>
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            <div><br>
              ...Skeeve</div>
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              <div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve
                  Stevens - </b><span
                  style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego
                  Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:54 AM, Guy
          Ellis <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:guy@traverse.com.au" target="_blank">guy@traverse.com.au</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div>Based on our ADSL2+ experience I wouldn't go near
                Zyxel with a barge pole.<br>
                <br>
                Instead take a look at the Adtran 1248V - they are not
                expensive and are carrier class.<br>
                They even have a local engineer in Melbourne!<br>
                <br>
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                On 12/12/2013 11:43 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">Hey,
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                  <div>Anyone have any experience with these:</div>
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                  </div>
                  <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="http://www.zyxel.com/au/en/products_services/ves1724_56.shtml?t=p"
                      target="_blank">http://www.zyxel.com/au/en/products_services/ves1724_56.shtml?t=p</a></div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>48 port VDSL2 DSLAMs.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>If so, opinions welcome...  Costs would be
                    interesting to know.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Any sales contacts in AU or NZ would be welcome
                    too.</div>
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                        <div><br>
                          ...Skeeve</div>
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                          <div><b
                              style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve

                              Stevens - </b><span
                              style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego

                              Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
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