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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Add my 2c, so I have been deploying routerOS in VM’s.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Personally I like the interface, love the cost<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">And it seems to be doing all the things I want.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">BGP, I am taking a full table from 2 up streams (soon to be 3). Also got OSPF working well, interfacing with my Cisco & Dell kit<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I am moving from hardware, the cost and the rack space doesn’t work for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We are a virtualisation house, and the numbers in regards to throughput are not bleeding edge.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Currently I have been getting around 600Mbps through one of these routers (600 in and 600 out) that’s on 2 virtual interfaces in ESX 5.5, my initial test point
to routersOS not being the bottleneck… 1 set of disks, behind a iSCSI server . Over the next couple of weeks, I am commissioning some 10G dark fibre, it will be interesting to see if I can push these to their max with routerOS. The biggest hurdle is the
fact they have to special VMware network drivers …..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I was pointed to routerOS from this mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There are some idiosyncrasies, the firewall is state full, which can be a pain when using VRRP, already given some feedback on that<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I would like to see better config management.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I probably would have built a linux router solution than spend the money on hardware.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Alex<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim G<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 11 December 2013 6:09 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Skeeve Stevens; Matt Perkins<br>
<b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Juniper vs Cisco vs Brocade - what's best for BGP routing?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Skeeve; also, just as another note, I would prefer to be sent from a reseller to a vendor's presales engineering team then be sold hardware and/or configuration that will
not work in a specific environment. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Don't be scared of Vyatta… the software will work wonders with cheap hardware ($3-6k for two boxes). I have a CCR1016-12G board from Mikrotik (this is one of the "Cloud
Core" branded boards) sitting at home and if you are looking for something inexpensive it might not be a bad route (heh!) to go.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">RouterOS supports VRRP for setting up a master/slave virtual router with only around three lines of config. (OSPF/RIP is also supported… apparently. I could never get it
to work correctly.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Two Cloud Core's will not set you back more then $1,500, and it will give you throughput of ~ 3Gbps…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Can't speak for Juniper/Cisco gear, but IMHO GBP Multihoming is easier to set up on Mikrotik then on Brocade: <a href="http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Simple_BGP_Multihoming">http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:Simple_BGP_Multihoming</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">Tim</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="color:#A0A0A8">On 11 December 2013 at 5:40:05 PM, Skeeve Stevens (<a href="mailto://skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>) wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black">Just a note. If a reseller can't answer some basic technical questions, they shouldn't be selling the product in the first place.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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