<div dir="ltr">Chris, I disagree with your interpretation of this statement.<div><br></div><div>All,<br><div><br></div><div>'network operators' use many technologies to manage their networks, including services, devices, appliances and so on. With the way networking is going (SDN), there will be far more servers involved in the infrastructure than ever. Your argument might be that it doesn't matter what it is about, but that it relates to 'networking'. I also disagree with this (should you assert it).</div>
<div><br></div><div>There are many aspects to operating a 'Network Operator', much includes areas such as: policy of local and regional bodies (i.e. TPP, APNIC), some politics (i.e. policy, NBNCo), legal (i.e. interception, laws, legal requirements), business matters (who can offer me....), relationships (I am trying to find someone who does)....</div>
<div><br></div><div>...and servers... many areas of which could relate to monitoring, accounting, load, hardware requirements related to PC platform routers/SDN, out of band, and so on.</div><div><br></div><div>I think that being a "network operator" encompasses many things... As for what seems to be a generic question on Server tech... I don't know, but the line gets very blurry in many areas, and we should be erring on the side not being so trigger happy for the 'off-topic' call... sometimes a persons question may not have a clear context.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Simply... if people don't know an answer to something, they should just shut up and ignore it, rather than polluting the list with responses about how the thread is off-topic. If it wasn't relevant to the list, it would just disappear into the ether, but lately there is a storm of replies... (like I am doing now I suppose).</div>
<div><br></div><div>People could also do a lot more replying off-list. If you don't think something is appropriate - why do you feel the need to say it in front of 2000+ people (I am learning this). Just reply directly as I have had many people do to me over the years.</div>
<div><br></div><div>David... You are a Director and Moderator, but your 'go try SAGE-AU' and your 'Strike 2' emails could also have been sent off-list rather than provoking further useless discussion.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Others response for 'lmgtfy' are also better sent directly.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree with the moderators trying to keep the list on topic as much as possible... But I think everyone just needs to relax a little before this list does indeed Jump the Shark and outlive its usefulness to people who are sick of the whinging and others who might be afraid to post for fear of being slammed.</div>
<div><br></div><div>(Fully said in the knowledge I have contradicted the above in the past - but trying not to anymore).</div><div><br></div><div>...Skeeve</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
<div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Nov 30, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Chris Bennetts <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris@chipa.org" target="_blank">chris@chipa.org</a>></span> wrote:</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Perhaps some people need to read the intro lines on the AusNOG website and mailing list pages: “The AusNOG Mailing List is an informally
moderated mailing list providing a forum for the discussion of technical and operational information by network operators.” – Network, not server operators.</span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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