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<p>I believe we had this discussion before Robert, within twelve months, search your archives for my indepth thoughts. </p>
<p>Basically, charging what you do, for what you offer, is a joke, when the same information is freely obtained with 10 seconds to 5 mins of google magic, faster than most list responses would ever be as well. </p>
<p>If you want people to join, you need to give them value for money, and frankly, in 2013, there is pretty much nothing you could given to justify anywhere near that cost with the various free technical lists, forums, usenet, and IRC options, with, being open, permits a far wider range of professionals, increasing dramatically the available knowledge.</p>
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<p>On 30/11/2013 10:55, Robert Hudson wrote:</p>
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<div>I'm sorry you feel that way about SAGE-AU. I'd be very happy to discuss with you what you'd like to see SAGE-AU offering above and beyond the existing offerings to make it worth more than the cost of a cup of coffee a week.</div>
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<div>For what it's worth, yes, we had a substantial drop in membership over the 2011/2012 period, but last year we grew again, and we're growing again this year. So I guess we must be pleasing some people. :)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 30 November 2013 11:22, Noel Butler <span><<a href="mailto:noel.butler@ausics.net">noel.butler@ausics.net</a>></span> wrote:<br />
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<div>surely your not suggesting he pays 110 bucks a year (or has it gone up now?) for a next to useless ..... the mailing lists were the only tiny part of it that was worth anything, but paying for access to a mailing list, wow stupidity.<br /><br /> plenty of free mailing lists around, and there's even this place called google, or this strange thing thats been around for decades that most kids of today have not clue of called IRC.<br /><br /><br /> disclaimer:<br />yes I was a member, it taught me and countless others nothing (hence why membership is drying up in recent years), it only ate away at our wallets, and frankly I'd rather spend that 110 on a good feed of Chinese
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