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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I think its fair to say that since the
FTTP roll was announced and telstra dragged kicking and screaming
into the 20th century that the CAN has been treated with a "well
it only needs to last 10 years" mentality.<br>
Which is understandable, theres no real point replacing a trunk
line today if its going to get replaced by fibre tomorrow.<br>
However I think the big change happened around when it was
privatised and particularly under ziggy.<br>
It seemed to go from a place where (as a whole) doing the job well
was valued over doing lots of jobs.<br>
It went from well we are going to have to do this right at some
point, might as well do it now to must maximise profits for the
next quarter, "do more with less".<br>
<br>
Now I know there were hotshots, slackers and dodgy brothers back
then too but I don't think its unfair to say the bloke we now have
running the NBN also oversaw the biggest reduction in maintenance
work and customer satisfaction in the Telstra CAN.<br>
<br>
In theory telstra are still required to maintain services in areas
not served by NBN, perhaps a few $M thrown their way to pay for
"repairs not economic with upcoming obsolescence" may have been an
idea. How on earth you manage that is left as an exercise for the
student lol.<br>
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On 22/11/13 14:14, Paul Wallace wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">When
the NBN was first announced (or the deal completed at least)
Telstra immediately stopped investing in the copper CAN.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">..
as would anyone else probably knowing that the entire copper
network was going to be discontinued.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Many
of the complaints we’ve heard today might have been averted
where the previous government added a ‘maintenance’ facet to
the agreement with Telstra.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Given
the not inconsiderable delay forecast by the NBNco to
complete the rollout (I think 8-9 years was forecast), it
seems negligent for the previous Gov to have exposed some
Australian consumers to the degradation. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Also,
strangely, I haven’t heard the Unions complain that the
effect of killing off the copper CAN was to provide Telstra
with the perfect excuse to make a range of copper focused
jobs redundant.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">Nothings
perfect but some things are just plain dumb.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A">-P<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#44546A"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Robert Hudson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 22 November 2013 12:38 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Pinkerton, Eric (AU Sydney)<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] "It's like grandfather's axe"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I suspect those shonkey work practices
have contributed to the accelerated decline of the copper
network.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That said, I also suspect that many of
the requirements to actually do work on the copper in the
first place came as a result of the general longetivity of
copper networks. :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 22 November 2013 13:32, Pinkerton,
Eric (AU Sydney) <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Eric.Pinkerton@baesystemsdetica.com"
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<p class="MsoNormal">Am I the only person who thinks those
photos provided by the CEPU of the aging copper network
speak more to shonky work practices than the general
longevity of copper networks?<o:p></o:p></p>
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