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    Won't really work, especially these days, the lines are marked as a
    medical emergency line upon ordering. If they are marked with this
    then yes they tend to receive prioritised service, but you can't
    make the claim a year after having the service provisioned just to
    get it looked at quicker.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 22/11/13 08:42, Christopher Mclean
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            had an ex Telstra tech tell me that when you have those
            problems you just mention that there is a person with a
            dodgy medical condition that requires emergency phone access
            they then begin to sit up and take much more notice. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            AusNOG [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On
              Behalf Of </b>Giles Pollock<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:48 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] "It's like grandfather's axe"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">Had the same issue with copper myself.
            Rain, line drops out, by the time they look at it the
            problem has dried out and they try to say it doesn't exist.
            I ended up deliberately calling them on one of my other good
            lines and piping the sound of the other line to the poor rep
            (not sure if their ears recovered or not) who managed to get
            a tech to properly diagnose and repair the poor joints.<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">That was hard, but try convincing
              Telstra that you have two separate lead-ins for the same
              phone line on the same property (so two literal 'first
              sockets'), and that one isn't working properly... They
              just didn't want to believe me...<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Tony
              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:td_miles@yahoo.com" target="_blank">td_miles@yahoo.com</a>>
              wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">So here
                      is the response I got from carrier from the ticket
                      I logged last night:<br>
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                      <o:p></o:p></span></p>
                  <pre>Service is currently showing up for over 2 days

<o:p></o:p></pre>
                  <pre>Please advise if packet loss is still occurring as service seems to be stable
We can leave case on hold for 24 hours for monitoring
Fault will need to be logged to Telstra when issue is occurring. 
If service is working fine currently, it may be hard for tech to know where the issue is

<o:p></o:p></pre>
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Case is on hold for 24 hours for monitoring<o:p></o:p></pre>
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                      There is no packet loss right now (apart from the
                      continual 0.4%) and so I have no recourse based on
                      the above ?<br>
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                      I did send them the graph of packet loss, but they
                      either didn't get it, or ignored it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""> Damien
                              Gardner Jnr <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net"
                                target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>><br>
                              <b>To:</b> Tony <<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:td_miles@yahoo.com"
                                target="_blank">td_miles@yahoo.com</a>>;
                              "<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
                                target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>"
                              <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
                                target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>
                              <br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 21 November 2013
                              6:50 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] "It's like
                              grandfather's axe"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal">On 20/11/2013
                                      7:58 PM, Tony wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                          style="font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"">No,
                                          I haven't reported it to the
                                          carrier for a while. I think I
                                          did at one point in the past
                                          and the result was it went to
                                          the testing team queue, sat
                                          there for 2 days until someone
                                          got around to looking at it at
                                          which point the service had
                                          righted itself and job was
                                          closed with "no fault found".<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Now here's the
                                  interesting question..  Did the
                                  service actually 'right itself', OR
                                  did the line testing resolve the
                                  problem?  A house we lived in a few
                                  years ago, our ADSL sync would drop
                                  from 9mbps to 4-5mbps like clockwork,
                                  if we had more than three hours of
                                  continuous rain.  A call to telstra
                                  saying there was crackling on the
                                  line, and 5 minutes on hold while they
                                  ran a line test, and voila, the
                                  crackle was gone and a retrain on the
                                  modem and it'd be back up to 9mbps.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre>Damien Gardner Jnr<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre>VK2TDG/VK2DGJ. Dip EE. GradIEAust<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a> -  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.rendrag.net/" target="_blank">http://www.rendrag.net/</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre>We rode on the winds of the rising storm,<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre> We ran to the sounds of thunder.<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre>We danced among the lightning bolts,<o:p></o:p></pre>
                                <pre> and tore the world asunder<o:p></o:p></pre>
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