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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yeah I know you can have an emergency phone for somebody living in the house as a permanent thing. This is more along the lines of “ I have my mother in law staying with us to recover from an illness/operation” or something along those lines. Guess it is always worth a try in a desperate situation. Submarine cables (Telstra pits) are always a pain to get fixed as they just shoot a TDR from the exchange which tells them pretty much nothing about the earth loop that is 40m from your premises and causing your phone to buzz.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Goldman<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 22, 2013 8:45 AM<br><b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] "It's like grandfather's axe"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Won't really work, especially these days, the lines are marked as a medical emergency line upon ordering. If they are marked with this then yes they tend to receive prioritised service, but you can't make the claim a year after having the service provisioned just to get it looked at quicker.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 22/11/13 08:42, Christopher Mclean wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I had an ex Telstra tech tell me that when you have those problems you just mention that there is a person with a dodgy medical condition that requires emergency phone access they then begin to sit up and take much more notice. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Giles Pollock<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] "It's like grandfather's axe"</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Had the same issue with copper myself. Rain, line drops out, by the time they look at it the problem has dried out and they try to say it doesn't exist. I ended up deliberately calling them on one of my other good lines and piping the sound of the other line to the poor rep (not sure if their ears recovered or not) who managed to get a tech to properly diagnose and repair the poor joints.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>That was hard, but try convincing Telstra that you have two separate lead-ins for the same phone line on the same property (so two literal 'first sockets'), and that one isn't working properly... They just didn't want to believe me...<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Tony <<a href="mailto:td_miles@yahoo.com" target="_blank">td_miles@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>So here is the response I got from carrier from the ticket I logged last night:<br><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><pre>Service is currently showing up for over 2 days<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Please advise if packet loss is still occurring as service seems to be stable<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>We can leave case on hold for 24 hours for monitoring<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Fault will need to be logged to Telstra when issue is occurring. <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>If service is working fine currently, it may be hard for tech to know where the issue is<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre><o:p> </o:p></pre><pre>Case is on hold for 24 hours for monitoring<o:p></o:p></pre><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'><br>There is no packet loss right now (apart from the continual 0.4%) and so I have no recourse based on the above ?<br><br>I did send them the graph of packet loss, but they either didn't get it, or ignored it.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Damien Gardner Jnr <<a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a>><br><b>To:</b> Tony <<a href="mailto:td_miles@yahoo.com" target="_blank">td_miles@yahoo.com</a>>; "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 21 November 2013 6:50 AM</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] "It's like grandfather's axe"</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 20/11/2013 7:58 PM, Tony wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>No, I haven't reported it to the carrier for a while. I think I did at one point in the past and the result was it went to the testing team queue, sat there for 2 days until someone got around to looking at it at which point the service had righted itself and job was closed with "no fault found".</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>Now here's the interesting question.. Did the service actually 'right itself', OR did the line testing resolve the problem? A house we lived in a few years ago, our ADSL sync would drop from 9mbps to 4-5mbps like clockwork, if we had more than three hours of continuous rain. A call to telstra saying there was crackling on the line, and 5 minutes on hold while they ran a line test, and voila, the crackle was gone and a retrain on the modem and it'd be back up to 9mbps.<o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Damien Gardner Jnr<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>VK2TDG/VK2DGJ. Dip EE. GradIEAust<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:rendrag@rendrag.net" target="_blank">rendrag@rendrag.net</a> - <a href="http://www.rendrag.net/" target="_blank">http://www.rendrag.net/</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>--<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>We rode on the winds of the rising storm,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> We ran to the sounds of thunder.<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>We danced among the lightning bolts,<o:p></o:p></pre><pre> and tore the world asunder<o:p></o:p></pre></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>