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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear All<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The biggest issue within M1 for a copper service would be the cross connection charge, its $150.00 per month for a copper cross connection. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>However if you arrange an out of band service with a carrier who also has their own cable license into the MMR room then your only looking at $75.00 per month for a dual fibre cross connection which for an out of band service is a significant saving, or $50 per month if you use single core. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>That being said If you can get 3g/4g to work that saves you the cross connection charge all together….<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kindest Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>James Braunegg<br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>P:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> 1300 769 972 | <b>M:</b> 0488 997 207 | <b>D:</b> (03) 9751 7616</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>E:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>james.braunegg@micron21.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> | <b>ABN:</b> 12 109 977 666 <br><b>W:</b> <a href="http://www.micron21.com/ip-transit"><span style='color:black'>www.micron21.com/ip-transit</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> <b>T:</b> @micron21<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br><img border=0 width=250 height=39 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CEE113.2509F1C0" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: M21.jpg"><br></span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>This message is intended for the addressee named above. 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If you have received this message in error please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer.</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Peter Betyounan<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Wallace<br><b>Cc:</b> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NextDC M1 - Out of band transit needed<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>As long as your transit paths are completely different you should be all good. Telstra DSL is literally more reliable in the DC's than 3G though a Mikrotik DSL + 3G modem with RouterOS would be close to perfect. <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Paul Wallace <<a href="mailto:paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au" target="_blank">paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Not true .... They all have their own issues.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif"'> Skeeve Stevens<br><b>Sent:</b> 11/13/13, 8:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> Peter Betyounan</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>Cc:</b> <br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] NextDC M1 - Out of band transit needed<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>For the most part, an ethernet cross-connect with a /32 is far simpler - as long as you pick a diverse upstream. <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Also means you don't need any DSL router, authentication, copper, phone line costs, or DSL plan. 1Mb of bandwidth will get you enough to do emergency firmware downloads, email alerts, SSH/RDP/etc inbound. Ethernet is also unlikely to every have issues compared to DSL and 3G.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Skeeve Stevens - </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Phone: <a href="tel:1300%20239%20038" target="_blank">1300 239 038</a>; Cell <a href="tel:+61%20(0)414%20753%20383" target="_blank">+61 (0)414 753 383</a> ; skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://twitter.com/theispguy" target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a> ; blog: <a href="http://www.theispguy.com/" target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><b>Error! Filename not specified.</b><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F'>The Experts Who The Experts Call</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060'>Juniper - Cisco - Cloud</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Peter Betyounan <<a href="mailto:peter@serversaustralia.com.au" target="_blank">peter@serversaustralia.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Just drop a DSL line in via a different carrier + static IP and you're set<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Joshua D'Alton <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au" target="_blank">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This might not be particularly related to the request, but why don't DCs provide some sort of 'standard' OOB (for a price, or for free with X monthly spend, whatever)? Especially something like NextDC who are at the forefront of new thinking... <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Or even an OOB company itself?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Or maybe I'm just ignorant :)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 6:25 PM, Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hey all, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I have someone looking for a cross-connect with minimal transit (1mb) and a static IP for some out-of-band access.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>They are in the main M1 hall, and not in one of the cages. If you can easily cross-connect and delivery a service like this cheaply, please drop me a line and I will forward it to the party needing it.<br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Skeeve Stevens - </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Phone: <a href="tel:1300%20239%20038" target="_blank">1300 239 038</a>; Cell <a href="tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383" target="_blank">+61 (0)414 753 383</a> ; skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://twitter.com/theispguy" target="_blank">twitter.com/theispguy</a> ; blog: <a href="http://www.theispguy.com/" target="_blank">www.theispguy.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><b>Error! 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