<div dir="ltr">Hey Joe,<div><br></div><div>At the moment it looks like Megaport is still working out their pricing.</div><div><br></div><div>Last week they were $500 for peering and $250 for VxC access.</div><div><br></div>
<div>They've now changed it to $500 which now includes both... yah.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br>...Skeeve</div><div><br></div><div><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - </b><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 6:23 PM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au" target="_blank">joe@apcs.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Skeeve,<br>
<br>
If a person requests dual physical connections into MP fabric, I would hope MP would come to the party with a 'standby' cost of that second one. Obviously the Cross Connect cost is still on the connecting party in their relevant DC, but unless both connections are being used for aggregation, I would hope not to have to buy 2 lots of everything and have special pricing for the standby physical link.<br>
<br>
Also - if you don't want the IX it seems you might only have to pay $200 for just VxC fabric activation, if you are really trying to keep those costs down.<br>
<br>
Time will tell, as Bevan and the team release more info on pricing and options. It is definitely an interesting concept.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Joe<br>
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Brad,<br>
<br>
As much as I appreciate what many of the DC providers have to offer...<br>
some of the cross-connect pricing is just extortion, and I have no<br>
sympathy sorry.<br>
<br>
But, you need to remember here... you will still need the initial 10Gb<br>
cross-connect (or dual), plus your $500 (or dual) into Megaport....<br>
you have to be getting value from the multiple savings on the physical<br>
X-connects, the peering, and access to the offerings on VxC.<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 5:35 PM, Brad Evans <<a href="mailto:brad@delion.com.au" target="_blank">brad@delion.com.au</a>><br>
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So I remove my 10x cross connects and replace it with 1. That is<br>
lost revenue, quite a bit. <br>
<br>
Sure, in reality it may not be that extreme, but it's no doubt<br>
going to cut into a pretty high margin product.<br>
<br>
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On 15/10/2013 5:26 PM, Daniel Watson wrote:<br>
<br>
Reading over this thread throughout the day, it seems to me that<br>
people are forgetting that you still need the cross connect within<br>
the DC to get connected to MegaPort's switching within the DC, so<br>
you would still have to pay that $225/month or what ever fees you<br>
have worked out with the DC in question.<br>
<br>
D.<br>
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SUBJECT: Re: [AusNOG] Transit over Megaport - who?<br>
<br>
I'm curious how the datacenters feel about potentially losing all<br>
this cross connect revenue. It has to be a pretty fair chunk of<br>
their profit. We all know that it doesn't cost $225/month (>$8k<br>
over 3 years) for 50m of fibre to sit in a tray, but we know that<br>
that 10Kva of redundant, protected power and cooling is worth every<br>
cent we pay for it.<br>
<br>
I think Macca raised a reasonable point... everything on 1 physical<br>
port is crazy. But everyone else has made the obvious conclusion<br>
that Megaport[S] open up some fantastic options for us all. <br>
How exactly does the service work if we take 2 ports? Are they<br>
aggregated or active/standby ? Is it the same cost to take up the<br>
2nd port?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
<br>
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On 15/10/2013 5:10 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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Hey Brent,<br>
<br>
I don't think it removes the cost of cross-connects, but it<br>
certainly makes it a hell of a lot cheaper.<br>
<br>
>From what one of the guys at MP told me, intra-dc will be<br>
$100/mth... which when you look at places like Equinix which does<br>
Fibre at $290/mth - this will essentially third that for permanent<br>
connections.<br>
<br>
I'm not sure of the final numbers, but Bevan mentioned $20/day (as<br>
opposed to $200/mth) if you only want a short term connection up and<br>
running.<br>
<br>
The trick here will be for Megaport to automate this so smoothly<br>
that VxC's are brought online VERY quickly.. perhaps even have<br>
non-active pre-provisioned ones (with VLAN's, etc) between two<br>
points, ready to come up at a moments notice.<br>
<br>
The datacentres these Cross-Connect fee savings will help massively<br>
will be places like Globalswitch with their insane install costs,<br>
ongoing monthlies and maze of suites run by different people with<br>
different rules.<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Brent Paddon<br>
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Absolutely. To be honest I see it as just another crossconnect -<br>
we already have a number of customers in both GS and Equinix<br>
directly connected. This will just make it a bit easier (removing<br>
cost of internal xconnects) and make it easier for us to sell (and<br>
buy from) others in DC's that we dont have a current presence in (eg<br>
S1, etc). Bring it on I say :)<br>
<br>
Bevan disrupting the status quo (his specialty I think) ... :)<br>
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Brent,<br>
<br>
You guys going to offer any of your products on Megaport VxC?<br>
<br>
...Skeeve<br>
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On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Brent Paddon<br>
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Its certainly going to change the way we all buy (and sell) services<br>
to each other. Definitely going to break down the current somewhat<br>
high inter-DC connectivity costs.<br>
<br>
I think the model that they've come up with is a winner and I'd be<br>
awfully surprised if there isn't a significant amount of traffic<br>
(mainly on the VXC's) pretty shortly...as soon as the rollout has<br>
reached that critical mass.<br>
<br>
I expect to see a LOT more connectivity between people (especially<br>
for those selling aggregation ports / last-mile access products),<br>
transit, cloudy stuff, etc. The current pain-in-arse of being in<br>
different DC's is pretty much going to go away. Heck, we all know<br>
what the cost of cross-connects _inside_ DC's is like at the moment.<br>
<br>
<br>
I also think that forcing people to go 10G is a smart move.<br>
<br>
We have our testing port up and running in Equinix - but yet to do<br>
any VXCs. Hopefully bringing on a Brisbane port shortly.<br>
<br>
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Hey Macca,<br>
<br>
I know you say unaffiliated, but I also know this product of<br>
Megaport directly competes with Vocus fibre to a certain degree.<br>
<br>
Let's be honest... we're not talking running things over peering<br>
here... I really don't see any quality difference running a VLAN<br>
over layer 2 Vocus/AAPT/Pipe/others and Megaport... sounds more<br>
like a scare tactic to be honest. Unless you have insight that you<br>
would like to share (honestly, I'd like to know)<br>
<br>
If we are talking dark vs. layer 2, then I would agree.... but I am<br>
also not suggesting everyone run absolutely everything over one<br>
Megaport connection... go dual feeds if you want.. I am sure they'd<br>
sell it. But... I see something interesting here, and I see it as<br>
the future of how inter-dc connections will be one - whether it is<br>
Megaport, or Vocus or Pipe get in on the game too... I see it as a<br>
great idea.<br>
<br>
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On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 3:42 PM, McDonald Richards<br>
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<br>
All my mission critical services on the one physical port and<br>
cabling? I can't wait!<br>
<br>
Macca<br>
(unaffiliated in this context)<br>
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On 15/10/2013, at 3:24 PM, "Skeeve Stevens"<br>
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OK all,<br>
<br>
The time is arriving for DC-Virtual Cross-Connects to become a<br>
useful part of our ISP lives.<br>
<br>
Whether it is Megaport, or other fibre providers who choose to<br>
replicate the model, the Megaport one is what we've got at the<br>
moment, and we might as well start using it.<br>
<br>
I've been having a few discussions with people about buying<br>
connectivity (not just transit) over the Megaport VxC fabric, but I<br>
am not sure if anyone out there has productised the selling of<br>
products over the VxC fabric.<br>
<br>
I know people like Amazon AWS will now allow you to connect to them<br>
over Megaport with a Direct Connect... and that is great.<br>
<br>
What I am looking for are some transit providers who are on, or<br>
getting on Megaport, who will sell either Transit or Wholesale<br>
services over the fabric.<br>
<br>
I was at an event recently, when Jason Ashton said that he was<br>
willing to do BigAir wholesale interconnects over Megaport - and<br>
that is an awesome start. What I would love to see is people like<br>
AAPT, iSeek, M2 and others be able to sell more wholesale tails over<br>
this fabric.<br>
<br>
Transit should be an easy one. for $200 intrastate between any<br>
connected DC's, with capacity up to the connection of your pipe<br>
(10Gb or 100Gb), I see people selling transit as a no-brainer.<br>
<br>
If you are doing this and want to announce it here, awesome... or<br>
if you don't want to announce yet, but happy to let me know - I will<br>
keep it quiet until you are ready to announce it.<br>
<br>
Also... other IXs... Pipe, Australia IX, Equinix Peering - have you<br>
thought of connecting to Megaport for the VxC, so people can<br>
actually use the Megaport fabric to get onto your IX as well?<br>
<br>
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