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I'm curious how the datacenters feel about potentially losing all
this cross connect revenue. It has to be a pretty fair chunk of
their profit. We all know that it doesn't cost $225/month (>$8k
over 3 years) for 50m of fibre to sit in a tray, but we know that
that 10Kva of redundant, protected power and cooling is worth every
cent we pay for it.<br>
<br>
I think Macca raised a reasonable point... everything on 1 physical
port is crazy. But everyone else has made the obvious conclusion
that Megaport[S] open up some fantastic options for us all. How
exactly does the service work if we take 2 ports? Are they
aggregated or active/standby ? Is it the same cost to take up the
2nd port?<br>
<br>
Cheers<br>
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-Brad<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 15/10/2013 5:10 PM, Skeeve Stevens
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<div dir="ltr">Hey Brent,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I don't think it removes the cost of cross-connects, but it
certainly makes it a hell of a lot cheaper.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>From what one of the guys at MP told me, intra-dc will be
$100/mth... which when you look at places like Equinix which
does Fibre at $290/mth - this will essentially third that for
permanent connections.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm not sure of the final numbers, but Bevan mentioned
$20/day (as opposed to $200/mth) if you only want a short term
connection up and running.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The trick here will be for Megaport to automate this so
smoothly that VxC's are brought online VERY quickly.. perhaps
even have non-active pre-provisioned ones (with VLAN's, etc)
between two points, ready to come up at a moments notice.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The datacentres these Cross-Connect fee savings will help
massively will be places like Globalswitch with their insane
install costs, ongoing monthlies and maze of suites run by
different people with different rules.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Absolutely. To be honest I see it as
just another crossconnect - we already have a number
of customers in both GS and Equinix directly
connected. This will just make it a bit easier
(removing cost of internal xconnects) and make it
easier for us to sell (and buy from) others in DC's
that we dont have a current presence in (eg S1, etc).
Bring it on I say :)
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<div>Bevan disrupting the status quo (his specialty I
think) ... :)<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Brent,
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<div>You guys going to offer any of your
products on Megaport VxC?</div>
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2013 at 4:20 PM, Brent Paddon <span
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<div dir="ltr">Its certainly going to
change the way we all buy (and sell)
services to each other. Definitely
going to break down the current
somewhat high inter-DC connectivity
costs.
<div><br>
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<div>I think the model that they've
come up with is a winner and I'd be
awfully surprised if there isn't a
significant amount of traffic
(mainly on the VXC's) pretty
shortly...as soon as the rollout has
reached that critical mass.</div>
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<div>I expect to see a LOT more
connectivity between people
(especially for those selling
aggregation ports / last-mile access
products), transit, cloudy stuff,
etc. The current pain-in-arse of
being in different DC's is pretty
much going to go away. Heck, we all
know what the cost of cross-connects
_inside_ DC's is like at the moment.</div>
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</div>
<div>I also think that forcing people
to go 10G is a smart move.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We have our testing port up and
running in Equinix - but yet to do
any VXCs. Hopefully bringing on a
Brisbane port shortly.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hey Macca,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I know you say
unaffiliated, but I also know
this product of Megaport
directly competes with Vocus
fibre to a certain degree.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Let's be honest... we're
not talking running things
over peering here... I really
don't see any quality
difference running a VLAN over
layer 2 Vocus/AAPT/Pipe/others
and Megaport... sounds more
like a scare tactic to be
honest. Unless you have
insight that you would like to
share (honestly, I'd like to
know)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If we are talking dark vs.
layer 2, then I would
agree.... but I am also not
suggesting everyone run
absolutely everything over one
Megaport connection... go dual
feeds if you want.. I am sure
they'd sell it. But... I see
something interesting here,
and I see it as the future of
how inter-dc connections will
be one - whether it is
Megaport, or Vocus or Pipe get
in on the game too... I see it
as a great idea.</div>
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<div>All my mission
critical services on
the one physical
port and cabling? I
can't wait!</div>
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<div>Macca</div>
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this context)<br>
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type="cite">
<div>
<div dir="ltr">OK
all,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The time is
arriving for
DC-Virtual
Cross-Connects
to become a
useful part of
our ISP lives.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Whether it
is Megaport,
or other fibre
providers who
choose to
replicate the
model, the
Megaport one
is what we've
got at the
moment, and we
might as well
start using
it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I've been
having a few
discussions
with people
about buying
connectivity
(not just
transit) over
the Megaport
VxC fabric,
but I am not
sure if anyone
out there has
productised
the selling of
products over
the VxC
fabric.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I know
people like
Amazon AWS
will now allow
you to connect
to them over
Megaport with
a Direct
Connect... and
that is great.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>What I am
looking for
are some
transit
providers who
are on, or
getting on
Megaport, who
will sell
either Transit
or Wholesale
services over
the fabric.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I was at an
event
recently, when
Jason Ashton
said that he
was willing to
do BigAir
wholesale
interconnects
over Megaport
- and that is
an awesome
start. What I
would love to
see is people
like AAPT,
iSeek, M2 and
others be able
to sell more
wholesale
tails over
this fabric.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Transit
should be an
easy one. for
$200
intrastate
between any
connected
DC's, with
capacity up to
the connection
of your pipe
(10Gb or
100Gb), I see
people selling
transit as a
no-brainer.</div>
<div><br>
If you are
doing this and
want to
announce it
here,
awesome... or
if you don't
want to
announce yet,
but happy to
let me know -
I will keep it
quiet until
you are ready
to announce
it.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Also...
other IXs...
Pipe,
Australia IX,
Equinix
Peering - have
you thought of
connecting to
Megaport for
the VxC, so
people can
actually use
the Megaport
fabric to get
onto your IX
as well?<br
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