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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Dear James<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>We had this very debate back in 2010 we were using Cisco 7200 G2 at our pop sites and they would just die under pressure …. Even more so when you started to flow traffic.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>We looked at the Cisco ASR, Brocade MLXe and Juniper MX routers all of which were stupidly large from a capacity point of view …. We ended up choosing the Brocade MLXe platform and it’s been a choice which I’m very happy with….. Lots of ports, lots of capacity and huge amounts of performance. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>That being said as mentioned you also have the Brocade CER RT which is a 1RU box like a MLXe but cut down in physical size single routing engine but still supports 4 x 10gbit interfaces and 1.5 million routes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kindest Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>James Braunegg<br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>P:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> 1300 769 972 | <b>M:</b> 0488 997 207 | <b>D:</b> (03) 9751 7616</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>E:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><a href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>james.braunegg@micron21.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'> | <b>ABN:</b> 12 109 977 666 <br><b>W:</b> <a href="http://www.ddosprotection.com.au"><span style='color:black'>www.ddosprotection.com.au</span></a> <b>T:</b> @micron21<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><br><img border=0 width=250 height=39 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CEB979.5BC658F0" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: M21.jpg"><br></span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'>This message is intended for the addressee named above. It may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you must not use, copy, distribute or disclose it to anyone other than the addressee. If you have received this message in error please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer.</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Colin Stubbs<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 24, 2013 10:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> james.mcintosh@rocketmail.com; AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Scaling beyond 1Gbps transit<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Since a bunch of people chipped in with the ASR option, which are great and can be quite attractive with the lower end/priced bundles..... a few words of warning.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>They're complicated boxes so make sure you're familiar with the ASR architecture including what components exist within each box. In particular what components have their own discrete memory; along with what those memory requirements will be within your particular network using your particular configuration.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>e.g. If you take MPLS all the way to the edge and are encapsulating a full Internet routing table that will impact memory requirements within the ESP. There are workarounds but on 1K consider an ESP 10G at a minimum.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Colin Stubbs | Equate Technologies<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Level 27, Santos Place, 32 Turbot Street, Brisbane, QLD 4000<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>T: +61 7 3181 5558 | M: +61 488 000 977<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>E: colin.stubbs @ equatetechnologies . com . au<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 24 September 2013 18:00, Lindsay Hill <<a href="mailto:lindsay.k.hill@gmail.com" target="_blank">lindsay.k.hill@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There are some ASR1K bundles you can get that include reasonably priced 10Gb ports.<br><br>If you don't get those ports via the bundle price, then yes, they blow the cost out of the water. I've seen some scenarios where it's almost worth buying a 1001 just to get bundled 10G adapters, that you then use somewhere else.<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 24/09/2013, at 7:24 PM, Tom Lanyon <<a href="mailto:tom%2Bausnog@oneshoeco.com">tom+ausnog@oneshoeco.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> On 24/09/2013, at 4:21 PM, Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br>>> 600Mbps is almost the limit for a 7201 (1Gig TP maximum theoretical).<br>>><br>>> Go an ASR1002 or Juniper MX5 - both make great cheap bgp border routers.<br>>><br>>> Yes... 10Gb interfaces is the way to go.... or just multiple 1Gb upstreams? With that much traffic, you should be diverse anyhow.<br>><br>> 10Gbps interfaces are still relatively expensive[1] on the ASR1000 platform, when you consider the pricing of 7200 series[2] gear which it is replacing. Is the situation better with the MX?<br>><br>> I don't have any experience with them, but would an ASR9001(-S) actually be a better choice for 10Gbps, considering the 4x built in 10Gbps SFP+ ports and cheaper-per-10Gbps modular port adapters?<br>><br>> -Tom<br>><br>><br>> [1] Somewhere around $12k for a single port SPA-1X10GE-L-V2? and some crazy figure for the WAN PHY version (which I assume just has big buffers?)..<br>><br>> [2] Understanding, of course, that this product line is EOL.<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AusNOG mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>