<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div>That's excellent Shara.  Really appreciate it.  Will provide some feedback directly.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>[b]</div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Shara Evans <<a href="mailto:ausnog@marketclarity.com.au">ausnog@marketclarity.com.au</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Friday, 20 September 2013 10:37 AM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [AusNOG] Dark Fibre Pricing<br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri" style="font-size: 13px;">Hi Bevan,</font><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri" style="font-size: 13px;">I'm collecting data in support of an ongoing project to benchmark dark fibre pricing. The results are used for a variety of purposes such as:</font></div><div><ul class="MailOutline"><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; ">asset valuation</span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; ">business cases</span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; ">price models (for example DF and wholesale ethernet prices are a part of my NBN Co bandwidth and price scenario model <a href="http://www.marketclarity.com.au/products/nbn-research/market-clarity-nbn-bandwidth-and-price-scenario-model-2/">http://www.marketclarity.com.au/products/nbn-research/market-clarity-nbn-bandwidth-and-price-scenario-model-2/</a>)</span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; ">customer projects </span></li><li><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; ">published price benchmark research</span></li></ul></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; ">Insight into the nature of any given contract is interesting in terms of understanding industry dynamics, but commercially sensitive specifics are not required. I do, however, need to know the length of the fibre run so that the data can be analysed.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; "><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; ">Although I certainly recognise that some routes (such as between DCs or other high traffic routes) would attract special pricing - and that underlying fibre build costs are definitely location dependent,</span><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; "> I'm not trying to segment DF pricing by specific location (mainly due to insufficient data points, and commercial sensitivity about specific contracts).</span></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">There are numerous fibre owners that have infrastructure spanning > 15 Km (my request), and whilst there are only a few telco industry fibre owners that sell long haul fibre, there are other non-telco fibre owners that make assets available to third parties.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">My reporting is done on the basis of industry low, median and high $/Km prices for different distance bands such as "Distance greater than 15 Km and up to and including 30 Km" which would make it very difficult (if not impossible) to backward engineer an industry low, median or high price to any specific provider. </span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">This type of research is very time consuming, and as such I can't freely release information into the public domain, but I'm happy to provide like-for-like feedback to anyone who is able to assist. Generally, I do this in a conversation so that we can also discuss related trends.</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">Cheers,</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">Shara</span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "><br></span></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; "><br></span></font></div><div><div>On 20/09/2013, at 7:38 AM, Bevan Slattery wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div dir="auto"><div>What might help is if you could provide background as to why you are seeking this information.  Is it for a particular client, an industry review that will be shared at no cost or a one you will charge for?</div><div><br></div><div>An idea of long haul in which areas? Between which sites (exchanges, PoI's, data centres or buildings), metro, city or rural?</div><div><br></div><div>Also most long fibre services would probably be Commercial in Confidence which would also mean people cannot provide this pricing (even if they excluded vendor info) as there are only two vendors or long haul at present.</div><div><br></div><div>The more disclosure provided to the list would help people understand why it maybe worthwhile for them to provide input.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>B</div><div><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 20/09/2013, at 7:18 AM, Shara Evans <<a href="mailto:ausnog@marketclarity.com.au">ausnog@marketclarity.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">Thanks Skeeve, and others who've replied off-list!</span></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;">To reiterate, I'm looking for current market pricing (contract/quote prices) for longer distance dark fibre runs. I don't need to know the carrier/supplier, and all info is normalised into industry low, median and high prices for different distance bands (typically on a $/Km basis)</span></font><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">. </span><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px;"> I'm happy to trade info / insights with anyone who is able to help.</span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><span class="apple-style-span"><br></span></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; "><span class="apple-style-span">Shara Evans</span><br><span class="apple-style-span">Market Clarity</span><br><span class="apple-style-span">Main: (02) 9043-9100 [International +61-2-9043-9100]</span><br><span class="apple-style-span">Mobile: 0416-258-462 [International +61-416-258-462]</span><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; ">Internet: <a href="http://www.marketclarity.com.au/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.marketclarity.com.au</a></span></span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: black; ">Check out Market Clarity's Aussie VoIP List: A free directory of over 210 Australian VoIP Service Providers at <a href="http://www.marketclarity.com.au/voip/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.marketclarity.com.au/voip/</a>.</span></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div><div>On 20/09/2013, at 3:35 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Btw everyone,<div><br></div><div>I encourage you to talk to Shara and help her out with information.  She does a lot of research and provides a lot of great information to the market, especially at the conferences like Commsday (happening in Melbourne in a couple of weeks) - about many interesting things that are going on.</div><div><br></div><div>If you find yourself stuck in NDAs, then perhaps pricing without the identifying carriers... that will still help her out.  Personally, I think all the carriers should help her out as it helps with the reports she does... but they don't help much.  Shara isn't putting together a carrier pricing comparison, but more research into industry trends and movement in areas like this....  and there are very few people other than Shara doing this.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div><br>...Skeeve</div><div><br></div><div><div><b style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">Skeeve Stevens - </b><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:Calibri">eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span></div><div><div><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px"><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><font><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">

Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; <a>skype://skeeve</a></div><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank"></a><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> </div><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank">twitter.com/networkceoau</a> ; blog: <a href="http://www.network-ceo.net/" target="_blank">www.network-ceo.net</a></div><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 13px; margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><img src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><span style="color: rgb(127, 0, 127); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; ">The Experts Who The Experts Call</span></div></font></div><div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(127,0,127)"><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">Juniper - Cisco </span><span style="color:rgb(0,32,96);font-size:13px">- Cloud</span></div></div></div></div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 6:05 PM, Shara Evans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ausnog@marketclarity.com.au" target="_blank">ausnog@marketclarity.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 1ex; position: static; z-index: auto; "><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><font face="Calibri" style="font-size:13px">Hi Everyone,<br><br></font><div><font face="Calibri" style="font-size:13px"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;font-style:normal;white-space:normal;font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">I'm trying to get a feel for current dark fibre pricing for distances > 15 Km. </span></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></span></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">If anyone has recently purchased dark fibre links that fit this description, I'd appreciate if we could have an off-line discussion. I'm happy to trade info / insights.</span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></span></font></div><div><font face="Calibri"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;font-style:normal;white-space:normal;font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="font-size:13px;word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></span></font><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px">Thanks in advance!</span><font face="Calibri"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;font-style:normal;white-space:normal;font-weight:normal;word-spacing:0px"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="font-size:13px;word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Shara</span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></span></font></div><div><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Arial;word-spacing:0px"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><font face="Calibri"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br>Shara Evans<br>Market Clarity<br>

Main: (02) 9043-9100 [International +61-2-9043-9100]<br>Mobile: 0416-258-462 [International +61-416-258-462]</span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></font></div></span></span><span style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:13px">Internet: <a href="http://www.marketclarity.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.marketclarity.com.au</a></span></div><div><font face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:13px"><br></span></font><div><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Arial;word-spacing:0px"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><font face="Calibri"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Check out Market Clarity's Aussie VoIP List: A free directory of over 210 Australian VoIP Service Providers at <a href="http://www.marketclarity.com.au/voip/" target="_blank">http://www.marketclarity.com.au/voip/</a>.</span></div><div><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></font></div></span></span></div><span style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;border-collapse:separate;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Arial;word-spacing:0px"><span style="line-height:normal;text-indent:0px;border-collapse:separate;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-variant:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:13px;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"></span></span></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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