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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"<FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>The NBNs price
model is, amongst other things, dependant on scale"</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I would suggest the pricing is more dependant on
the cost of deployment ( and a 6% return on the build cost) and given the
absolute balls up of a roll out the cost is currently probably double the cost
which a suitably qualified telco network engineer would have spent.
I have been watching the absolute waste going on in Toowoomba, with much
amazement. I imaging it is the same else where. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This was all forseeable and in fact I personally
told Conroy to his face what the issues would be, and I have seen one of those
exact situation play out. In particular the lack of suitably skilled people
to perform such a roll out. If conroy was smart he would have
employed a Don pernel, mic rocca or Kennedy type to head up
NBNco. Instead he employed a sales engineer. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is going to end up being a very expensive
rollout for which we will all pay, but I think I did mention that to this list
at the start, only to be howled down. Time to jump back into my
box</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Regards<BR> <BR>Tim<BR> <BR></DIV>
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<A title=hudrob@gmail.com href="mailto:hudrob@gmail.com">Robert Hudson</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=tom+ausnog@oneshoeco.com
href="mailto:tom+ausnog@oneshoeco.com">Tom Lanyon</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:55
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [AusNOG]Screw the NBN, says
TPG: We’ll do our own FTTB</DIV>
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<P dir=ltr>Of course it has an impact on the NBN. The NBNs price model is,
amongst other things, dependant on scale and the number of premises connected.
Reduce that number by a few million, and the per-port price will rise
significantly, and those in less profitable areas ("the bush" as an example),
won't have their pricing subsidised by the commercially lucrative connections
(in "the city)".</P>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On 17/09/2013 6:47 PM, "Tom Lanyon" <<A
href="mailto:tom+ausnog@oneshoeco.com">tom+ausnog@oneshoeco.com</A>>
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17/09/2013, at 6:09 PM, Jake Anderson <<A
href="mailto:yahoo@vapourforge.com">yahoo@vapourforge.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>> On 17/09/2013, at 5:14 PM, Nick Gale <<A
href="mailto:nickgale@gmail.com">nickgale@gmail.com</A>>
wrote:<BR>>> Are you saying we should have the ability for NBN
competitors? If so why?<BR>><BR>> Because if you don't then private
enterprise will build a bunch of little fiefdoms where it will be
uneconomical for anybody else to try to take market share with diminishing
returns, and as a bonus all those areas in "the bush"
that the population as a whole is rather fond of won't get any services at
all because its not "economic" to do so.<BR><BR>None of which would be an
issue, assuming that this is all occurring in parallel to the NBN,
right?<BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>AusNOG
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