<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I can see it now ...</div><div><br></div><div>Q: Minister Conroy, .. why build an NBN?</div><div><br></div><div>A: If the government doesn't build it no one else will.</div><div><br></div><div>Q: so .. er, why do you need legislation preventing competition?</div><div><br></div><div>A: What are you .. a f$&:5$@/3$&!ing Turnbull supporter?!</div><div><br></div><div>!!!</div><div><br></div><div>!!!</div><div><br><br><div><br></div></div><div><br>On 17/09/2013, at 5:37 PM, "Grahame Lynch" <<a href="mailto:grahamelynch@commsdaymail.com">grahamelynch@commsdaymail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=Windows-1252"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>They actually talked about it Paul in their verbal commentary today and say they think they are covered but just in case they are prepared to provide open access or cap speeds at 24Mbps just in case.<br>
<br></div>Yes there are exemptions in the law but they are ambiguous and clearly the spirit of the legislation was to prevent an overbuild equating to 7-10% or so of the population. The point is they aren't completely 100% sure of where they stand - clearly expanding superfast broadband capable tails to half a million apartments could conversely be viewed as an "<b>extension, alteration or upgrade".<br>
<br></b></div><b>Or put it another way; doubt they would have announced this if Conroy was still the minister....<br></b><div><div><br><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 September 2013 14:28, Paul Brooks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au" target="_blank">pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 17/09/2013 2:09 PM, Grahame Lynch
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<div>This is what the legislation says:<br>
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<i>A network unit that belongs to
a telecommunications network (other than the national
broadband
network) must not be used to supply a fixed-line carriage
service if: </i></div>
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However S141C:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><b>Certain installations and connections are
not taken to be an extension, alteration or upgrade</b>
<p>
For the purposes of this Part, if: </p>
<p>
(a) a <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line" target="_blank">line</a>
is or was installed for the purposes of connecting particular
premises to a <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#telecommunications_network" target="_blank">telecommunications
network</a>; and </p>
<p>
(b) the installation of the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line" target="_blank">line</a>
enables or enabled the occupier of the
premises to become a customer in relation to <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#carriage_service" target="_blank">carriage
services</a> supplied using
the network; and </p>
<p>
(c) the premises are in close proximity to a <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line" target="_blank">line</a>
that forms part of the
infrastructure of the network; and </p>
<p>
(d) the network is capable of being used to supply a
<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s142a.html#superfast_carriage_service" target="_blank">superfast
carriage service</a>; and </p>
<p>
(e) the network came into existence before 1 January 2011; </p>
<p>neither
the installation of the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line" target="_blank">line</a>
mentioned in paragraph (a), nor the
connection of the premises, is taken to be an extension, <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s142a.html#alter" target="_blank">alteration</a>
or <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s142a.html#upgrade" target="_blank">upgrade</a>
of the network. </p>
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So if the main fibre trunk cable was already passing the building
prior to 1 January 2011, they could extend it into the basement and
claim it was already "in close proximity" to the building, so is not
an extension, alteration or upgrade - so isn't required to provide a
L2 bitstream service.<br>
<br>
Similarly S141B allows new network extensions of less than 1
kilometre to be allowed, provided the network being extended existed
prior to 1 Jan 2011.<br>
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Somehow, I suspect they've covered these things off before making
the announcement.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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P.<br>
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