<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>That reads like a string argument and thanks for that Paul.</div><div><br></div><div>notwithstanding the above, the simple point I was trying to make was that this legislation should never have ever been contemplated in the first place and should now be reversed.</div><div><br></div><div>Stephen Conroy should then be investigated for negligence.</div><div><br><br><div><br></div></div><div><br>On 17/09/2013, at 5:29 PM, "Paul Brooks" <<a href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au">pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
  
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/09/2013 2:09 PM, Grahame Lynch
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>This is what the legislation says:<br>
          <br>
          <i>A network unit that belongs to
            a telecommunications network (other than the national
            broadband
            network) must not be used to supply a fixed-line carriage
            service if: </i></div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    However S141C:<br>
    <blockquote type="cite"><b>Certain installations and connections are
        not taken to be an extension, alteration or upgrade</b>
      <p class="subsection">                  
        For the purposes of this Part, if: </p>
      <p class="paragraph">                    
        (a)  a <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line">line</a>
        is or was installed for the purposes of connecting particular
        premises to a <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#telecommunications_network">telecommunications
          network</a>; and </p>
      <p class="paragraph">                    
        (b)  the installation of the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line">line</a>
        enables or enabled the occupier of the
        premises to become a customer in relation to <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#carriage_service">carriage
          services</a> supplied using
        the network; and </p>
      <p class="paragraph">                    
        (c)  the premises are in close proximity to a <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line">line</a>
        that forms part of the
        infrastructure of the network; and </p>
      <p class="paragraph">                    
        (d)  the network is capable of being used to supply a
        <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s142a.html#superfast_carriage_service">superfast
          carriage service</a>; and </p>
      <p class="paragraph">                    
        (e)  the network came into existence before 1 January 2011; </p>
      <p class="subsection2">neither
        the installation of the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line">line</a>
        mentioned in paragraph (a), nor the
        connection of the premises, is taken to be an extension, <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s142a.html#alter">alteration</a>
        or <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s142a.html#upgrade">upgrade</a>
        of the network. </p>
    </blockquote>
    So if the main  fibre trunk cable was already passing the building
    prior to 1 January 2011, they could extend it into the basement and
    claim it was already "in close proximity" to the building, so is not
    an extension, alteration or upgrade - so isn't required to provide a
    L2 bitstream service.<br>
    <br>
    Similarly S141B allows new network extensions of less than 1
    kilometre to be allowed, provided the network being extended existed
    prior to 1 Jan 2011.<br>
    <br>
    Somehow, I suspect they've covered these things off before making
    the announcement.<br>
    <br>
    P.<br>
    <br>
  

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