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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 September 2013 15:42, Paul Wallace <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au" target="_blank">paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="auto"><div>That reads like a string argument and thanks for that Paul.</div><div><br></div><div>notwithstanding the above, the simple point I was trying to make was that this legislation should never have ever been contemplated in the first place and should now be reversed.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Stephen Conroy should then be investigated for negligence.</div><div><div class="h5"><div><br><br><div><br></div></div><div><br>On 17/09/2013, at 5:29 PM, "Paul Brooks" <<a href="mailto:pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au" target="_blank">pbrooks-ausnog@layer10.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>On 17/09/2013 2:09 PM, Grahame Lynch
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
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<div>This is what the legislation says:<br>
<br>
<i>A network unit that belongs to
a telecommunications network (other than the national
broadband
network) must not be used to supply a fixed-line carriage
service if: </i></div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<br>
However S141C:<br>
<blockquote type="cite"><b>Certain installations and connections are
not taken to be an extension, alteration or upgrade</b>
<p>
For the purposes of this Part, if: </p>
<p>
(a) a <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line" target="_blank">line</a>
is or was installed for the purposes of connecting particular
premises to a <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#telecommunications_network" target="_blank">telecommunications
network</a>; and </p>
<p>
(b) the installation of the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line" target="_blank">line</a>
enables or enabled the occupier of the
premises to become a customer in relation to <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#carriage_service" target="_blank">carriage
services</a> supplied using
the network; and </p>
<p>
(c) the premises are in close proximity to a <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line" target="_blank">line</a>
that forms part of the
infrastructure of the network; and </p>
<p>
(d) the network is capable of being used to supply a
<a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s142a.html#superfast_carriage_service" target="_blank">superfast
carriage service</a>; and </p>
<p>
(e) the network came into existence before 1 January 2011; </p>
<p>neither
the installation of the <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s7.html#line" target="_blank">line</a>
mentioned in paragraph (a), nor the
connection of the premises, is taken to be an extension, <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s142a.html#alter" target="_blank">alteration</a>
or <a href="http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ta1997214/s142a.html#upgrade" target="_blank">upgrade</a>
of the network. </p>
</blockquote>
So if the main fibre trunk cable was already passing the building
prior to 1 January 2011, they could extend it into the basement and
claim it was already "in close proximity" to the building, so is not
an extension, alteration or upgrade - so isn't required to provide a
L2 bitstream service.<br>
<br>
Similarly S141B allows new network extensions of less than 1
kilometre to be allowed, provided the network being extended existed
prior to 1 Jan 2011.<br>
<br>
Somehow, I suspect they've covered these things off before making
the announcement.<br>
<br>
P.<br>
<br>
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