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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 17/09/2013 9:57 PM, Paul Wallace
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            that fully funded earlier version of the NBN looked almost
            identical to part of the current NBN<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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    I didn't say it wasn't funded, or workable (although I was involved
    at the time, and had my doubts then).<br>
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    All I'm saying is - we would still be complaining about it, and why
    it wasn't done differently. Even if it was OK.<span
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                AusNOG [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On
                  Behalf Of </b>Paul Brooks<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 17, 2013 9:45 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Screw the NBN, says TPG:
                We'll do our own FTTB<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 17/09/2013 9:28 PM, Paul Wallace
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">The network WOULD have not only existed
              by probably been completed today actually if Mr Conroy
              hadn't killed it off in its infancy.<o:p></o:p></p>
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          "A" network of some sort would have Paul - but I'll wager
          anything you like that we would still be bellyaching about how
          expensive/braindead/unreliable/insert-favourite-gripe-of-the-day
          it was, and floating all sorts of ideas about how it could and
          should have been done faster/slower/cheaper/costlier and with
          a different technology, different owner, builder, operator and
          operating model.<br>
          Further, if it had ever been deemed "completed" we would have
          fallen over laughing at the concept, and been proposing all
          sorts of ways to extend/expand/change it "like they should
          have done at the beginning" if only "they" had the foresight
          that this list has been blessed with - if only "they" had
          asked us.<br>
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          In short - it wouldn't matter who did what, the AusNOG
          community would find something to criticise about it ;-)<br>
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          (It seems to be what we do when we're not busy fixing stuff -
          so I'm reassured that everybody's networks must be
          extraordinarily stable this evening)<br>
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          Paul.<o:p></o:p></p>
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