<div dir="ltr">Good point, considering the 8% dividends from TLS... if they can keep those up they would be fine :)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mmc@mmc.com.au" target="_blank">mmc@mmc.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">If you're the Australian government and can borrow the money through<br>
bond sales (look at the current rates for bonds) then given how<br>
profitable Telstra (look at dividends and free cash flow etc) is you'd<br>
make a profit on holding it.<br>
<br>
So, reality is it doesn't matter how long other than your particular<br>
political views on governments borrowing money to invest etc etc.<br>
<br>
But you'd hope that you could do it fairly rapidly. Keeping "an" NBN<br>
on track is important.<br>
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MMC<br>
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On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Nathan Sullivan <<a href="mailto:nathan@nightsys.net">nathan@nightsys.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> Interesting...<br>
><br>
> The main interesting part of that equation would be how long does the Govt<br>
> have to "hold" Telstra and repay debt to facilitate the split into InfraCo +<br>
> other entities before it can sell them off and repay debt/s... in terms of<br>
> time = interest payable. 6 months? 12 months?<br>
><br>
> Theres probably a lot of legacies, in terms of systems, asset registers,<br>
> payroll splits that would need to be dealt with during that time.<br>
><br>
> Nathan.<br>
><br>
> On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 4:17 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <<a href="mailto:mmc@mmc.com.au">mmc@mmc.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Also,<br>
>> Govt already promised to pay Telstra ~$11B or so to move customers<br>
>> across - if buying Telstra and splitting it costs you that or less,<br>
>> then you're winning.<br>
>><br>
>> On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Matthew Moyle-Croft <<a href="mailto:mmc@mmc.com.au">mmc@mmc.com.au</a>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>> > On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Martin - StudioCoast<br>
>> > <<a href="mailto:martin.sinclair@studiocoast.com.au">martin.sinclair@studiocoast.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ><br>
>> >> What are others thoughts on this? What other cost saving measures are<br>
>> >> out<br>
>> >> there?<br>
>> >><br>
>> ><br>
>> > Go the insane private equity (but government) approach:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 1. Borrow money from markets on short term basis to repurchase Telstra<br>
>> > from existing shareholders. (need AU$60Billion + premium).<br>
>> > 2. Break Telstra down into component parts - including one<br>
>> > owning/running the last mile (Cu, ducts, Exchange buildings, HFC etc).<br>
>> > "InfraCo"<br>
>> > 3. Sell all the bits other than InfraCo - probably worth about the<br>
>> > right amount to pay back money borrowed as no longer encumbered with<br>
>> > ugly bit of last mile that needs mucking with, if not, lumber Infraco<br>
>> > with the debt.<br>
>> > 4. Setup InfraCo to do what it needs to building whatever you need to<br>
>> > build. It owns everything it needs and is govt owned. No negotiating<br>
>> > with anyone. Don't have to argue about technologies etc. It can have<br>
>> > a look at what it's got and do what it needs to do relative to a<br>
>> > political dictum about services it needs to provide.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > So, money's pretty cheap to borrow internationally for short term.<br>
>> > Australia has AAA ratings so borrowing it should be pretty<br>
>> > straightforward. InfraCo remains initially government owned so AAA<br>
>> > rating is fine.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Given the "cost" is really just what the difference is between<br>
>> > acquiring Telstra and then selling the bits InfraCo doesn't need it's<br>
>> > probably cheaper. Infraco starts with a customer base so you just set<br>
>> > it up so it can afford to roll out high speed over X timeframe. Also<br>
>> > means that if you want to sell it then you have no issues other than<br>
>> > selling a govt monopoly which is a problem we already have.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > MMC<br>
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