<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Look I think it's simple.</div><div><br></div><div>At a certain point you need trust rather than control.</div><div><br></div><div>I think you should be required by network engineer secret handshake law to have had a beer with someone, in person, before plugging in and announcing routes to each other.</div><div><br></div><div>Ye who has more prefixes pays.</div><div><br></div><div>S.</div><div><br>On 22/08/2013, at 9:07 PM, "Geordie Guy" <<a href="mailto:elomis@gmail.com">elomis@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><p dir="ltr">What's your rant about SDN?</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 22/08/2013 8:14 PM, "Paul Gear" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@libertysys.com.au">ausnog@libertysys.com.au</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>It's all right, because PKI is going to
save us! Never mind that the SSL CAs can't get it right - the
RIRs and network engineers will.<br>
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<a href="http://packetpushers.net/show-105-bgp-origin-validation-with-resource-public-key-infrastructure-rpki/" target="_blank">http://packetpushers.net/show-105-bgp-origin-validation-with-resource-public-key-infrastructure-rpki/</a><br>
<a href="http://packetpushers.net/pq-show-30-rpki-dnsec-and-internet-security-with-ivan-pepelnjak/" target="_blank">http://packetpushers.net/pq-show-30-rpki-dnsec-and-internet-security-with-ivan-pepelnjak/</a><br>
(And the links contained therein.)<br>
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Apologies for the ranty tone. I'm almost as enthusiastic about
RPKI as I am about SDN.<br>
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Paul<br>
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On 08/22/2013 06:39 PM, Joshua D'Alton wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">With all these /48s flying around being announced
by various people, who/what is controlling legit announcing?
Unless I'm missing something RADB doesn't seem anywhere near as
up to date (well done Mark for keeping Internodes' up to date).?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Mark
Newton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:newton@atdot.dotat.org" target="_blank">newton@atdot.dotat.org</a>></span>
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On Aug 22, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Sean K. Finn <<a href="mailto:sean.finn@ozservers.com.au" target="_blank">sean.finn@ozservers.com.au</a>>
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> So I guess the general consensus is that we’re going
to take IPv6 seriously in this country after all?<br>
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I thought we already were.<br>
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To anyone who wants to dip their toe in the water: SAGE-AU
is just getting started with<br>
a scheme whereby they'll provide an LOA for a /48 assignment
out of 2406:c500::/32 to<br>
each and every member, so they can announce it as they see
fit.<br>
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/48's are likely to be accepted more or less everywhere. If
you're a network operator and<br>
you're not accepting them, have a good hard look at yourself
and ask why.<br>
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