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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Routes != volume (…..)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jared Hirst<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, 16 August 2013 8:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Cameron Daniel<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">According to <a href="http://he.net">he.net</a> they have the most amount of routes in AU!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Jared Hirst<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Servers Australia Pty Ltd<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Phone: +61 2 8115 8888<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Direct: +61 2 8115 8801<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 16 Aug 2013, at 8:35 pm, Cameron Daniel <<a href="mailto:cdaniel@nurve.com.au">cdaniel@nurve.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'd be interested to know where you're getting this from. Vocus run a great transit network but I think second largest is a big call...<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">They are the second biggest AU providers of IP Transit after Telstra.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 16/08/2013, at 15:40, "Joshua D'Alton" <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">complete alternate path for all your routes then you definitely are<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">looking at Go4, most if not all others actually have Vocus in their<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">upstreams too funnily enough.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Andrew Yager <<a href="mailto:andrew@rwts.com.au">andrew@rwts.com.au</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yep - preceisly. Vocus is great; rock solid, and very few issues. I<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">considered the "vocus only" approach - because their product is<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">confident that if an issue occurs that we have an alternate path to<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">route the traffic. As people have suggested from a a business<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">perspective, multiple provider routes are important, and really<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the many who have reached out and responded, still<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ANDREW YAGER, MANAGING DIRECTOR _(MACS Snr CP BCompSc MCP MCE<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Real World Technology Solutions Pty Ltd - IT people you can trust<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">ph: 1300 798 718 or (02) 9037 0500<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">fax: (02) 9037 0591 mob: 0405 152 568<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 16/08/2013, at 2:45 PM, Jared Hirst<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><<a href="mailto:jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au">jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">+1 Dual ports / sessions with Vocus.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Of Sean K.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 2:36 PM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To: 'Andrew Yager'; <<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I know this sounds strange, but why not ask Vocus to deliver you<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">diversity<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Possibly they can also provide private backhaul between the two<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">where they hand off to you, and, heck, maybe even protect it if<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I use them for Transit as well as Intercap and other private<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">connectivity and haven't seen a blip in two years on Intercap or<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">May as well get your carrier to do all the hard work in<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">connectivity to your pops - that's what you pay them for.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Of Andrew<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 10:51 AM<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">To: <<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Subject: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Aware that this question is asked all the time.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Looking for recommendations for a "diverse" path to Vocus for<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">500Mbps -<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1Gbps (95th/burstable) with handoff in GS, Eqx and NextDC M1;<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">with the ability to deliver on a 10G port "in the future" should<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Had been considering AAPT but had some interesting feedback<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">support that is making me think twice. Would be interested in<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">thoughts of other reasonable options. :)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Andrew Yager, Managing Director (MACS Snr CP BCompSc MCP MCE<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Real World Technology Solutions Pty Ltd - IT people you can trust<o:p></o:p></p>
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