<div dir="ltr">Uh they don't have the most routes in AU, Telstra does. Then TPG, PIPE, then Vocus, Singtel, Internode and so on. Sort by routes :)<div><br></div><div>Highest adjacencies doesn't really mean much in terms of how much transit amount (mbps or $$) either.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Maybe Nathan can elaborate what metric he's using.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Nathan Brookfield <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">Nathan.Brookfield@simtronic.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>Highest adjacencies also. <div class="im"><br>
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Nathan Brookfield
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<div>Simtronic Technologies Pty Ltd</div>
<div><a href="http://www.simtronic.com.au" target="_blank">http://www.simtronic.com.au</a></div>
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On 16/08/2013, at 20:54, "Jared Hirst" <<a href="mailto:jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au" target="_blank">jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>According to <a href="http://he.net" target="_blank">he.net</a> they have the most amount of routes in AU!</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
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<div>Jared Hirst</div>
<div>Servers Australia Pty Ltd</div>
<div>Phone: <a href="tel:%2B61%202%208115%208888" value="+61281158888" target="_blank">+61 2 8115 8888</a></div>
<div>Direct: <a href="tel:%2B61%202%208115%208801" value="+61281158801" target="_blank">+61 2 8115 8801</a></div>
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On 16 Aug 2013, at 8:35 pm, Cameron Daniel <<a href="mailto:cdaniel@nurve.com.au" target="_blank">cdaniel@nurve.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div><span>I'd be interested to know where you're getting this from. Vocus run a great transit network but I think second largest is a big call...</span><br>
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<span>On 2013-08-16 4:34 pm, Nathan Brookfield wrote:</span><br>
<blockquote type="cite"><span>They are the second biggest AU providers of IP Transit after Telstra.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>On 16/08/2013, at 15:40, "Joshua D'Alton" <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au" target="_blank">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>></span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Vocus is a fairly significant AU player, if you're looking for a</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>complete alternate path for all your routes then you definitely are</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>looking at Go4, most if not all others actually have Vocus in their</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>upstreams too funnily enough.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 3:24 PM, Andrew Yager <<a href="mailto:andrew@rwts.com.au" target="_blank">andrew@rwts.com.au</a>></span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi All,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Yep - preceisly. Vocus is great; rock solid, and very few issues. I</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>can't say never - but they are responsive and quick to act. I</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>considered the "vocus only" approach - because their product is</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>great (read "give me a discount please") - but really we need to be</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>confident that if an issue occurs that we have an alternate path to</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>route the traffic. As people have suggested from a a business</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>perspective, multiple provider routes are important, and really</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>necessary in my mind for getting traffic around.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks for the many who have reached out and responded, still</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>interested in thoughts. :)</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>JNCIA-Junos)_</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Real World Technology Solutions Pty Ltd - IT people you can trust</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>ph: 1300 798 718 or (02) 9037 0500</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>fax: (02) 9037 0591 mob: 0405 152 568</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.rwts.com.au/" target="_blank">http://www.rwts.com.au/</a> [1]</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>On 16/08/2013, at 2:45 PM, Jared Hirst</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Never had an issue. *touch wood*</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Of Sean K.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Finn</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 2:36 PM</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>To: 'Andrew Yager'; <<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>></span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I know this sounds strange, but why not ask Vocus to deliver you</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>diversity</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Possibly they can also provide private backhaul between the two</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>where they hand off to you, and, heck, maybe even protect it if</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>you ask</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>nicely enough.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>I use them for Transit as well as Intercap and other private</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>local</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>connectivity and haven't seen a blip in two years on Intercap or</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Transit.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>May as well get your carrier to do all the hard work in</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>connectivity to your pops - that's what you pay them for.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Sean.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>-----Original Message-----</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>From: AusNOG [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Of Andrew</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Yager</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 10:51 AM</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>To: <<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>></span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Subject: [AusNOG] Transit provider recommendations</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi All,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Aware that this question is asked all the time.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Looking for recommendations for a "diverse" path to Vocus for</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>500Mbps -</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>1Gbps (95th/burstable) with handoff in GS, Eqx and NextDC M1;</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>with the ability to deliver on a 10G port "in the future" should</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>our needs</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>require.</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>around product</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>support that is making me think twice. Would be interested in</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>thoughts of other reasonable options. :)</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Thanks,</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Andrew</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>Real World Technology Solutions Pty Ltd - IT people you can trust</span><br>
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>ph: 1300 798 718 or (02) 9037 0500</span><br>
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