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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">That's certainly what i prefer, but it
      doesn't solve Tony's "the remote side of things which you don't
      control" issue, whereas i was under the impression that L2TP/IPsec
      in Windows does.<br>
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      On 08/09/2013 03:08 PM, Alex Samad - Yieldbroker wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I have seen places implement openvpn
            as a viable alternative</span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Alex</span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                  lang="EN-US"> AusNOG
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                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Paul Gear<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, 9 August 2013 3:05 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Application Firewall
                  Recommendations</span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">On 08/09/2013 02:54 PM, Tony wrote:</p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Who still uses PPTP you might say ?
                  It's insecure, get rid of it I hear ? The problem is
                  the remote side of things which you don't control and
                  user in dept X absolutely have to connect to vendor Y
                  via PPTP session to do something "really important".<br>
                  ...</p>
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            At the very least it should be actively deprecated...<br>
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            I've been told that the Windows VPN client can automatically
            determine whether a VPN server is PPTP or L2TP/IPsec and do
            the right thing - is that not the case?<br>
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            Paul</p>
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