<div dir="ltr">When you start looking at NBN and the number of POI and the costs involved, iiNet still has a ways to go yet to get up there with Telstra and Optus. TPG should be fine as is M2 probably.</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:37 AM, Peter Tiggerdine <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ptiggerdine@gmail.com" target="_blank">ptiggerdine@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
I wasn't trolling.<br>
<br>
iiNet is becoming quiet large and buying up every ISP they can get<br>
their hands on. This is shrinking the market and reduce competition<br>
particularly in non Eastern Seabaord states where local ISP have tend<br>
to develop decent sized networks.<br>
<br>
There appears to be a very large gap forming between the top 5-6 ISP's<br>
and the rest is all I'm getting at.<br>
<br>
Had it being any other ISP's other than Telstra and iiNet then<br>
competition would still be there in SA.<br>
<br>
iiNet along with Optus, Telstra, AAPT, Verizon should all be treated the same.<br>
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On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM, Rod Veith <<a href="mailto:rod@rb.net.au">rod@rb.net.au</a>> wrote:<br>
> It’s you. J Also suspect you’re trolling but just in case you<br>
> aren’t:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> It didn’t have to be iiNet, ACCC would not have stopped any other ISP, or<br>
> even Woolies, from buying Adam. ACCC just couldn’t get Telstra to agree not<br>
> to play favourites with Adam. It is important to note here that Telstra<br>
> refused to agree to certain controls being put in place. Do you/we really<br>
> want Telstra circumventing regulations to make them even bigger/more<br>
> powerful? Telstra didn’t seem to cry too much when the deal was knocked on<br>
> the head so I suspect they knew this deal was a long shot but one worth<br>
> attempting.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Need to remember that capitalism only works when there is competition. US<br>
> policy makers understand the principle and enforce it (think AT&T, Microsoft<br>
> and for history buffs - sugar, tobacco and Standard Oil ), pity that Aus<br>
> policy makers seem to understand the concept but often fail with<br>
> enforcement. The only reason to allow a monopoly is when the national<br>
> interest is better served by keeping the monopoly operating (eg PMG-Telecom)<br>
> and even then you control it through regulation.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Rod<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> From: AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of Peter<br>
> Tiggerdine<br>
> Sent: Tuesday, 6 August 2013 9:18 AM<br>
> To: Skeeve Stevens<br>
> Cc: <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
> Subject: Re: [AusNOG] iiNet buys Adam<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Is it me of is ACCC playing favoritism with every other ISP other than<br>
> Telstra?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> iiNet have both the number one, two and three carrier in SA now outside of<br>
> Telstra and Optus<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Seems to me the politics is getting in the way of what is supposed to me an<br>
> impartial body.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Skeeve Stevens<br>
> <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> See:<br>
> <a href="http://www.crn.com.au/News/352427,iinet-to-spend-60m-on-adam-internet.aspx?eid=4&edate=20130806&utm_source=20130806&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter" target="_blank">http://www.crn.com.au/News/352427,iinet-to-spend-60m-on-adam-internet.aspx?eid=4&edate=20130806&utm_source=20130806&utm_medium=newsletter&utm_campaign=daily_newsletter</a><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ...Skeeve<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
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