<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; "><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); ">Josh – please read below</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION" style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><div style="font-family:Calibri; font-size:11pt; text-align:left; color:black; BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 3pt"><span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> Joshua D'Alton <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Sunday, 4 August 2013 4:56 PM<br><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Cameron Daniel <<a href="mailto:cdaniel@nurve.com.au">cdaniel@nurve.com.au</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [AusNOG] Why is peering in Australia so hard?<br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr">"True, but those small ISPs are single homed and will have quite simple setups. Indeed a cross connect or worst case some fiber interconnect might be relatively cheap, but peering requires talking BGP and that for a start requires more expensive gear (lol @ megaport $500/month for 10G, cheap on OPEX sure but a single fiber module will cost you a years worth of peering, and a router another 5-20yrs so the CAPEX is the issue there), and then the engineering side."</div></span><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><br></div><div><font color="#1f497d">Not sure if this is an attempt at FUD or just a general lack of understanding where 10G is in the year 2013.</font></div><div><font color="#1f497d"><br></font></div><div><font color="#1f497d">10G Optics are somewhere between $100-$300 depending on vendor (fibre pair). We also buy single fibre/bi-di 10G SFP+ for less than $500 each. A couple of ISP's connecting to Megaport on Test Drive didn't have any 10G gear so we "loaned" them a Brocade switch (4x10G slots and 24x1G holes) for a grand total cost to us of somewhere around $1,500/switch. In fact I just ordered another 12 of these said switches. Regardless all these providers had 10G on their roadmap within 6-12 months so this is a good "bridge" for them (pun intended).</font></div><div><font color="#1f497d"><br></font></div><div><font color="#1f497d">So the actual cost of the optics is so low I'll give them to any Megaport customer because we buy them by the hundreds – literally. And 10G switches are so cheap I buy them by the dozen. 10G capable routers are less than $10k.</font></div><div><font color="#1f497d"><br></font></div><div><font color="#1f497d">Probably time to get a new price book me thinks.</font></div><div><font color="#1f497d"><br></font></div><div><font color="#1f497d">[b]</font></div></body></html>