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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On a side note a Juniper SRX220 is something I would not recommend… (Even though I Love the SRX platform) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It will die very quickly under any small DDoS attack as its session based device<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kindest Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>James Braunegg<br></span></b><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>P:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> 1300 769 972 | <b>M:</b> 0488 997 207 | <b>D:</b> (03) 9751 7616</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>E:</span></b><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="mailto:james.braunegg@micron21.com"><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>james.braunegg@micron21.com</span></a></span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> | <b>ABN:</b> 12 109 977 666 <br><b>W:</b> <a href="http://www.micron21.com/ip-transit">www.micron21.com/ip-transit</a> <b>T:</b> @micron21</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><br><img border=0 width=250 height=39 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.jpg@01CE833E.C41E63A0" alt="Description: Description: Description: Description: M21.jpg"><br></span><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>This message is intended for the addressee named above. It may contain privileged or confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you must not use, copy, distribute or disclose it to anyone other than the addressee. If you have received this message in error please return the message to the sender by replying to it and then delete the message from your computer.</span><span style='font-size:8.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua D'Alton<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:25 PM<br><b>To:</b> Daniel Watson<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Being single-homed you don't even really technically need a full-blown router depending on the other features you need, some basic layer3 switch with appropriate connectivity will do the job, though future proofing will be hard as especially you want a 2nd transit provider down the track maybe.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>SRX220 might be all you need, not sure on the price of that exactly but should only be a few thousand.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Daniel Watson <<a href="mailto:daniel@glovine.com.au" target="_blank">daniel@glovine.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Gday Tim<br><br>Thing here is. Our provider controls our router. Being Vyetta, we dont have access<br><br>The only thing we have access too. Is the gear behind that, switches and servers ect ect<br><br>All great advise thus far<br><br>Ive been told we have a regular default BGP routing table aswell. So i hope that helps<br><br>Daniel<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On 17/07/2013, at 22:09, "Tim March" <<a href="mailto:march.tim@gmail.com">march.tim@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>><br>> I'm sure you'll get a load of great advice on buying a new routing platform. Skeeve will tell you to buy a Juniper. I'll tell you to buy a Cisco. Chairman Mao will tell you to buy a Huawei. They'll all do what you need them to better than whatever virtual appliance you're probably running now.<br>><br>> The network issues you're describing could be symptomatic of a whole range of fairly disparate causes. The best thing you can do is get someone who knows what they're doing to sit down in front of your network, do some analysis and produce a plan to improve it. Assuming you just need to buy $RandomPieceOfHardwareSomeDudeOnAMailingListSuggested and your problems will go away is flipping a coin.<br>><br>><br>><br>><br>> T.<br>><br>> On 17/07/13 10:00 PM, Joshua D'Alton wrote:<br>>> Skeeve will be the man to answer this question, and maybe even the man<br>>> to supply you with the juniper (to do it (unless you want to go ebay cisco).<br>>><br>>> As an aside, NDA permitting, surely this isn't for Glovine?<br>>><br>>> Reading your last reply, some SRX is what you'll want I think.<br>>><br>>><br>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:53 PM, Skeeve Stevens<br>>> <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Do you have more than one upstream?<br>>><br>>> Also.. can you confirm the size of the link and that you will need<br>>> 2Gb/s throughput.<br>>><br>>><br>>> ...Skeeve<br>>><br>>> *Skeeve Stevens - *eintellego Networks Pty Ltd<br>>> <a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a>> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a><br>>> <<a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/</a>><br>>><br>>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell <a href="tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383">+61 (0)414 753 383</a><br>>> <<a href="tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383">tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383</a>> ; skype://skeeve<br>>><br>>> <a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a><br>>> <<a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a>> ;<br>>> <<a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/networkceoau</a>><a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a><br>>> <<a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a>><br>>><br>>> <a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank">twitter.com/networkceoau</a> <<a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/networkceoau</a>> ; blog:<br>>> <a href="http://www.network-ceo.net" target="_blank">www.network-ceo.net</a> <<a href="http://www.network-ceo.net/" target="_blank">http://www.network-ceo.net/</a>><br>>><br>>><br>>> The Experts Who The Experts Call<br>>><br>>> Juniper - Cisco - Cloud<br>>><br>>><br>>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Daniel Watson<br>>> <<a href="mailto:daniel@glovine.com.au">daniel@glovine.com.au</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:daniel@glovine.com.au">daniel@glovine.com.au</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>> Gday Tony<br>>><br>>> Speed would only need to be a max of 2gbit realistically..<br>>><br>>> As for the BGP table. Id have to come back on that one..<br>>><br>>> No firewall or NAT needed. Just a basic router<br>>><br>>> Sorry i cant be of more infomation. Im a bit unsure myself :S<br>>><br>>> I know our provider passes through a BGP session currently. And<br>>> the virtual router handles our ASN and IP prefixes<br>>><br>>><br>>> Regards<br>>><br>>> D.<br>>><br>>> Sent from my iPhone<br>>><br>>> On 17/07/2013, at 21:39, "Tony" <<a href="mailto:td_miles@yahoo.com">td_miles@yahoo.com</a><br>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:td_miles@yahoo.com">td_miles@yahoo.com</a>>> wrote:<br>>><br>>>> Hi Daniel,<br>>>><br>>>> You probably need to supply a little bit more information, the<br>>>> most important being what speed is your connection and are you<br>>>> taking a full BGP table (and if you are, do you really need<br>>>> to) ? Do you want the router to do anything else (NAT,<br>>>> firewall, make you a cup of coffee, etc ?). Any preference for<br>>>> vendor ?<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> regards,<br>>>> Tony.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>>>> *From:* Daniel Watson <<a href="mailto:daniel@glovine.com.au">daniel@glovine.com.au</a><br>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:daniel@glovine.com.au">daniel@glovine.com.au</a>>><br>>>> *To:* "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>><br>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 17 July 2013 9:34 PM<br>>>> *Subject:* [AusNOG] Assistance in picking a router<br>>>><br>>>> Gday Noggers<br>>>><br>>>> I need some assistance from the community in looking at<br>>>> routers<br>>>><br>>>> We only need a basic router<br>>>><br>>>> Our provider provides us with a BGP session from their<br>>>> core to our virtual router at present, But our virtual<br>>>> router is not coping very well<br>>>><br>>>> Can the community please have an open discussion with me,<br>>>> as to what i should be looking at in the way of routers?<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Regards<br>>>><br>>>> D.<br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> AusNOG mailing list<br>>>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>>>> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> AusNOG mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>>> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> AusNOG mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>>> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> AusNOG mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AusNOG mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>> <a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>