<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>You're unlikely to get Cisco 6k for that price. The 10G modules alone are going for $12k+ on ebay (ie. just the card, no chassis or other suff you need). If you do go this path, remember that you need the 3CXL to hold 1 million routes. The normal 3C are only good for 256k routes. The new SUP-2T for Cisco 6500 has 2x 10G ports on the SUP (still out of your price range, but provide a reasonable solution if you only need 2x 10G ports).<br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Do you need 10G of transit ? Is it possible to instead bond a
few 1G ports to together to get perhaps 2-4G of transit and then you could do it on a device that has "only" 1G ports which would be a lot easier to find within your budget ? I realise this does limit you maximum capacity to how many ports you can bond together (ie. probably 4G max), but if you buy something that is modular (ie. Cisco 6k) the 10G ports should be a lot more affordable in a couple of years time if you don't need that much transit right now and you can upgrade at that point in time.<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">I don't have much experience with 10G cards on Linux, is it able to route that much traffic (ie. raw device throughput)
?<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">regards,</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Tony.<br><span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><br></span></div><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px;
padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Joshua D'Alton <joshua@railgun.com.au><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Greg M <gregm@servu.net.au> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, 13 July 2013 4:25 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] 20G+ Routing on the cheap<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv6441907919"><div dir="ltr">I've spent some time on this similar/exact problem recently, and it basically cannot be done for 10-15k. The problem is the full routing
table AND the ports, there really just doesn't exist such a product (yet), unless you are really really lucky to get something 2nd-hand like a 6k with the 10G modules as part of the deal.<div>
<br></div><div>Good luck!</div></div><div class="yiv6441907919gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv6441907919gmail_quote">On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 3:58 PM, Greg M <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:gregm@servu.net.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:gregm@servu.net.au">gregm@servu.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv6441907919gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-AU"><div><div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal">
<u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal">I currently have a project I am working on to peer at Equinix in Palo Alto, as well as obtaining 10G transit at the same location.<u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div>
<div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal">The challenge I have is finding a way to do hardware-switched, high availability, full-table BGP routing in a cost effective manner.<u></u><u></u></div><div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal">
We were originally looking at a Cisco 4948E which can handle our port requirements (20-30 1000-base T, plus 4 x 10G ports), however it can only handle 30k unicast routes, and probably doesn’t have the RAM to support one or more full BGP tablesets anyway.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal">I am now looking at still using the 4948E, but using a Linux box downstream from it with 2 x 10G ports, that will run quagga to handle the routing – but obviously there will be a performance hit for this. <u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal">Wondering if any smaller sized ISP’s have come across a scenario like this and have any ideas – or if anyone has any recommended switchrouters that can handle multiple 10G ports, plus full BGP – under $10-15k.<u></u><u></u></div>
<div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div><div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal">Thanks!<span class="yiv6441907919HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><u></u><u></u></font></span></div><span class="yiv6441907919HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></div>
<div class="yiv6441907919MsoNormal">Greg<u></u><u></u></div></font></span></div></div><br></blockquote></div></div></div><br></div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> </div></body></html>