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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'm still wondering when I'll be able
to order my telstra fiber connection at home<br>
NBNco says they will be activating in January for my area in
penrith, what website should i go to for telstras offering?. <br>
I've looked and looked but I cant seem to find telstra rolling
FTTP outside of the South Brisbane Exchange area.<br>
<br>
</sarcasm><br>
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On 12/07/2013 12:08 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">It makes it ok in the sense that you suggested the
government had some significant control over Telstra by saying
they have 49% ownership... which isn't that high, and isn't
directly the government either.... which makes your initial rant
invalid.
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<div>Has someone not given you your coffee today Paul? Or
perhaps too much? ;-)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 12:05 PM, Paul
Wallace <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au" target="_blank">paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">So
that makes it OK does it?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I
still recall the genius’’ in Canberra railing
against Telstra & ‘Opts-At Home’ (presided over
by Chris Chapman at the time, now Chairman of the
ACMA) building out two HFC networks!</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Long
term sustained attacks were leveled at the
concurrent rollout of these two largely ‘privately
held’ networks … “it’s a waste” they protested “they
should be made to work together” they hollered.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">15
years later they go it themselves & it vastly
more expensive way.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Telstra
is currently getting the fibre out there so quickly
that we’ll end up half pregnant (yet again)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The
famous “made it up on the back of an envelope on a
40 minute flight to Melbourne’ resonates long &
loud.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Why
is Government getting BACK INTO business whilst the
entire rest of the OECD is getting OUT of it?</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
AusNOG [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 12, 2013 11:58 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul Wallace<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Mike Quigley has
resigned</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra"
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Government (via the Future
Fund) only owns 10.9% of Telstra - according to
Wikipedia.</p>
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<h3
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.05in;margin-left:0in;overflow:hidden"><span
style="font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Privatisation</span><span
style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""></span></h3>
<p
style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:14.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Telstra
was privatised in three different stages,
informally known as "T1" ($3.30), "T2" ($7.40)
and "T3" ($3.60) in 1997, 1999 and 2006
respectively.<sup><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-autogenerated1-5"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0b0080;text-decoration:none">[5]</span></a><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-6"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0b0080;text-decoration:none">[6]</span></a></sup> In <b>T1</b>,
the government sold one third of its shares in
Telstra for A$14 billion and publicly listed
the company on the Australian Stock Exchange.<sup><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-autogenerated1-5"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0b0080;text-decoration:none">[5]</span></a></sup> In
1999, a further 16% of Telstra shares were
sold to the public, leaving the Australian
government with 51% ownership. In 2006, <b>T3</b> was
announced by the government and was the
largest of the three public releases, reducing
the Government's ownership of Telstra to 17%.<sup><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-7"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0b0080;text-decoration:none">[7]</span></a></sup> The
17% remainder of Telstra was placed in
Australia's <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Fund"
title="Future Fund" target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0b0080;text-decoration:none">Future
Fund</span></a>, which will provide <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superannuation"
title="Superannuation" target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0b0080;text-decoration:none">superannuation</span></a> and <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pension"
title="Pension" target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0b0080;text-decoration:none">pensions</span></a> for
Australia's <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_servants"
title="Public servants" target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0b0080;text-decoration:none">public
servants</span></a>.<sup><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-8"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0b0080;text-decoration:none">[8]</span></a></sup> In
2009, the Future Fund sold off another $2.4B
worth of shares reducing the government's
stake in Telstra to 10.9%.<sup><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-9"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:#0b0080;text-decoration:none">[9]</span></a></sup></span></p>
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...Skeeve</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:53
AM, Paul Wallace <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au"
target="_blank">paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au</a>>
wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Can
someone explain to me why we’re supporting
the concurrent role-out of TWO fibre
networks by Government owned Carriers?</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">That
would be Telstra + NBNco obviously</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Don’t
forget for a moment that Telstra continues
to be half owned by the Government & The
ALP is fundamentally opposed, root &
branch, to selling the remaining 49% off.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It’s
a disgrace on a massive scale.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
AusNOG [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Perkins<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 12, 2013 10:59
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Mike
Quigley has resigned</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">That's a shame. I was
always impressed with his understanding of
the NBN's big picture. Pity he never got a
lot of cut through in the main stream media.
I guess that's what happens when you render
there broadcast linences and pay TV networks
redundant overnight. <br>
<br>
<br>
Matt.<br>
<br>
On 12/07/13 10:50 AM, Peter Childs wrote:</p>
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Even the NBN web site — so I might believe
it</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a
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href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/about-us/media/news/nbn-co-chief-executive-announces-retirement.html"
target="_blank">http://www.nbnco.com.au/about-us/media/news/nbn-co-chief-executive-announces-retirement.html</a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:
</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Narelle
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:narellec@gmail.com"
target="_blank">narellec@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, 12 July 2013 10:10
AM<br>
<b>To: </b>"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net"
target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[AusNOG] Mike Quigley
has resigned</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It's all over the
news.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">See full statement:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/153280963/NBN-Co-CEO-announces-retirement"
target="_blank">definitefraudstart
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http://www.scribd.com/doc/153280963/NBN-Co-CEO-announces-retirement</a><br>
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Narelle<br>
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href="mailto:narellec@gmail.com"
target="_blank">narellec@gmail.com</a>
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<pre> Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. Ltd. </pre>
<pre> Office 1300 133 299 <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matt@spectrum.com.au" target="_blank">matt@spectrum.com.au</a> </pre>
<pre> Fax 1300 133 255 Level 6, 350 George Street Sydney 2000</pre>
<pre> SIP <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:1300137379@sip.spectrum.com.au" target="_blank">1300137379@sip.spectrum.com.au</a> </pre>
<pre> PGP/GNUPG Public Key can be found at <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pgp.mit.edu" target="_blank">http://pgp.mit.edu</a> </pre>
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