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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So that makes it OK does it?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I still recall the genius’’ in Canberra railing against Telstra & ‘Opts-At Home’ (presided over by Chris Chapman at the time, now Chairman of the ACMA) building out two HFC networks!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Long term sustained attacks were leveled at the concurrent rollout of these two largely ‘privately held’ networks … “it’s a waste” they protested “they should be made to work together” they hollered.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>15 years later they go it themselves & it vastly more expensive way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Telstra is currently getting the fibre out there so quickly that we’ll end up half pregnant (yet again)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The famous “made it up on the back of an envelope on a 40 minute flight to Melbourne’ resonates long & loud.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Why is Government getting BACK INTO business whilst the entire rest of the OECD is getting OUT of it?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Skeeve Stevens<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 12, 2013 11:58 AM<br><b>To:</b> Paul Wallace<br><b>Cc:</b> <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Mike Quigley has resigned<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>From: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Government (via the Future Fund) only owns 10.9% of Telstra - according to Wikipedia.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><h3 style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:.05in;margin-left:0in;overflow:hidden'><span style='font-size:13.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Privatisation</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></h3><p style='mso-margin-top-alt:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:14.4pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Telstra was privatised in three different stages, informally known as "T1" ($3.30), "T2" ($7.40) and "T3" ($3.60) in 1997, 1999 and 2006 respectively.<sup id="cite_ref-autogenerated1_5-0"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-autogenerated1-5"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>[5]</span></a><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-6"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>[6]</span></a></sup> In <b>T1</b>, the government sold one third of its shares in Telstra for A$14 billion and publicly listed the company on the Australian Stock Exchange.<sup id="cite_ref-autogenerated1_5-1"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-autogenerated1-5"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>[5]</span></a></sup> In 1999, a further 16% of Telstra shares were sold to the public, leaving the Australian government with 51% ownership. In 2006, <b>T3</b> was announced by the government and was the largest of the three public releases, reducing the Government's ownership of Telstra to 17%.<sup id="cite_ref-7"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-7"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>[7]</span></a></sup> The 17% remainder of Telstra was placed in Australia's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Fund" title="Future Fund"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>Future Fund</span></a>, which will provide <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superannuation" title=Superannuation><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>superannuation</span></a> and <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pension" title=Pension><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>pensions</span></a> for Australia's <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_servants" title="Public servants"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>public servants</span></a>.<sup id="cite_ref-8"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-8"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>[8]</span></a></sup> In 2009, the Future Fund sold off another $2.4B worth of shares reducing the government's stake in Telstra to 10.9%.<sup id="cite_ref-9"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telstra#cite_note-9"><span style='color:#0B0080;text-decoration:none'>[9]</span></a></sup><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>...Skeeve<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Skeeve Stevens - </span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>eintellego Networks Pty Ltd</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank">twitter.com/networkceoau</a> ; blog: <a href="http://www.network-ceo.net/" target="_blank">www.network-ceo.net</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><img border=0 id="_x0000_i1025" src="http://eintellegonetworks.com/logos/ein09.png"><o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F'>The Experts Who The Experts Call</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#002060'>Juniper - Cisco - Cloud</span><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7F007F'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 11:53 AM, Paul Wallace <<a href="mailto:paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au" target="_blank">paul.wallace@mtgi.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Can someone explain to me why we’re supporting the concurrent role-out of TWO fibre networks by Government owned Carriers?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>That would be Telstra + NBNco obviously</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Don’t forget for a moment that Telstra continues to be half owned by the Government & The ALP is fundamentally opposed, root & branch, to selling the remaining 49% off.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>It’s a disgrace on a massive scale.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AusNOG [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Matt Perkins<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, July 12, 2013 10:59 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Mike Quigley has resigned</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>That's a shame. I was always impressed with his understanding of the NBN's big picture. Pity he never got a lot of cut through in the main stream media. I guess that's what happens when you render there broadcast linences and pay TV networks redundant overnight. <br><br><br>Matt.<br><br>On 12/07/13 10:50 AM, Peter Childs wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Even the NBN web site — so I might believe it<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="http://www.nbnco.com.au/about-us/media/news/nbn-co-chief-executive-announces-retirement.html" target="_blank">http://www.nbnco.com.au/about-us/media/news/nbn-co-chief-executive-announces-retirement.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Narelle <<a href="mailto:narellec@gmail.com" target="_blank">narellec@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Friday, 12 July 2013 10:10 AM<br><b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>[AusNOG] Mike Quigley has resigned</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It's all over the news.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>See full statement:<br><a href="http://www.scribd.com/doc/153280963/NBN-Co-CEO-announces-retirement" target="_blank">definitefraudstart "www.scribd.com"definitefraudend definitefraudstart "www.scribd.com"definitefraudend definitefraudstart "www.scribd.com"definitefraudend definitefraudstart "www.scribd.com"definitefraudend http://www.scribd.com/doc/153280963/NBN-Co-CEO-announces-retirement</a><br><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>-- <br><br><br>Narelle<br><a href="mailto:narellec@gmail.com" target="_blank">narellec@gmail.com</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>AusNOG mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>/* Matt Perkins <o:p></o:p></pre><pre> Direct 1300 137 379 Spectrum Networks Ptd. 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