<div dir="ltr"><div class="" style="line-height:1.3em;color:rgb(32,32,32)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">"The regulation of telecommunications powers in Australia is exclusively federal. That means I am in charge of spectrum auctions, and if I say to everyone in this room ‘if you want to bid in our spectrum auction you’d better wear red underpants on your head’, I’ve got some news for you. You’ll be wearing them on your head. I have unfettered legal power."</font></div>
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<div class="" style="color:rgb(32,32,32)"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:22.390625px"><br></span></font></div><div class="" style="color:rgb(32,32,32)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">"A deep and unabiding loathing for pretty much the entire Internet industry" is spot on.</span><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><span style="line-height:22.390625px"><br>
</span></font></div><div class="" style="color:rgb(32,32,32)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><br></span></div><div class="" style="color:rgb(32,32,32)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">We need to pull our heads out of our asses and start asserting our rights, otherwise we may well end up with red underpants on our heads. It is we, the members of this list, that control the Internet in this country. Not Conroy, not ASIC; us. We hold the figurative keys to almost every major network in Australia, and at least one International path. There is no 'internet kill switch' until we bend over and build one, no blocking until we implement it. We have incredible power, both individually and collectively. We are the gatekeepers; I suggest that we start acting accordingly.</span></div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Chris Macko <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cmacko@intervolve.com.au" target="_blank">cmacko@intervolve.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Well if that's his honest overall attitude, he may find more of us intelligent, well informed, legal, IT 'kind' getting involved in politics. :-p<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Confirmation of govt blackholing. Was: Re: Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to <a href="http://melbournefreeuniversity.org" target="_blank">melbournefreeuniversity.org</a>.<br>
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On 16/05/2013, at 6:04, Chris Macko <<a href="mailto:cmacko@intervolve.com.au" target="_blank">cmacko@intervolve.com.au</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>I think it's what happens when a politically unsavvy industry lets the government walk all over them.</div>
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<div>This thread wouldn't exist if the handful of ISPs who have bent-over the deepest had maintained expectations of "reasonableness" required by section 313. </div>
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<div>A section 313 notice isn't an order, it's a request for reasonable assistance which can be denied. If the requester doesn't like the denial, they get to ask the Federal Court for an order to compel. In the absence of such an order, a recipient of a notice
who says "No, it is not reasonable to block thousands of law abiding websites just because you have an unproven allegation that someone on the internet is running a scam," is on stable ground.</div>
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<div>Basically: show some backbone.</div>
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<div>It is totally normal in Australia for regulators to pretend they have vast coercive powers which haven't actually been granted to them by the Parliament. Make them prove it. As an industry, you have to use the courts to find out where the limits are, otherwise
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<div>Senator Conroy's response: "Hahaha. Or... What?"</div>
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<div>He doesn't care. He's always harboured a deep and unabiding loathing for pretty much the entire Internet industry. Why should he listen?</div>
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