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2 weeks ago we found TPG stopped sending traffic back to our AS via
Equinix Exchange and they preferred to send traffic through our PIPE
IP Transit connection. Fair enough, they want us to pay PIPE Transit
for traffic from TPG rather than give it to us for free.<br>
<br>
So we withdrew our prefixes from Pipe Transit to do further testing
- TPG preferred to go through Optus->Vocus to reach us (we also
use Vocus for Transit) rather than direct across Equinix Exchange.
So it seems they have no interest in sending traffic back to us over
Equinix Exchange any more. Not a very open policy for peering if
they are selectively refusing to route traffic to Equinix Exchange
participants.<br>
<br>
One final gripe (unrelated to PIPE/TPG) - Google doesn't openly peer
on Equinix Exchange, but they do on PIPE IX. <br>
<br>
-Brad<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/05/2013 5:46 PM, Joshua D'Alton
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:CAMtDJDJ1KxPt8sngDdywMb0rbayR4G9nKM3zfy7UrosGRx20ug@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Less of a problem than all international traffic
returning via PPC1, adding a good 60ms to eastbound. And
unfortunately the routing policies don't seem to differ between
residential and commercial (dsl and fiber), though I don't know of
any AU provider that does (maybe AAPT before they sold
residential?). What exetel do with traffic is interesting too, it
might indeed be as Skeeve suggests, the death of pipe peering...<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Brett <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bwtricky89@gmail.com" target="_blank">bwtricky89@gmail.com</a>></span>
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<div dir="ltr">You could always do what TPG are current doing
and having all PIPE traffic return via Sydney regardless of
state it originates from. It's quite lovely with what they
come up with..
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 3 May 2013 14:03, Luke
Iggleden <span dir="ltr"><<a
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wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey
Skeeve + List,<br>
<br>
I'm interested in routing policy for each connected
peer. Did anyone provide insight into how they are
electing egress paths?<br>
<br>
We local pref equinix due to least cost, however, we
seem to have a lot more ingress flows via pipe
peering.<br>
<br>
Are operators local preffing pipe peering over
equinix or vice versa or are you just letting
as-path length decide?<br>
<br>
If you're letting AS-PATH decide what is your tie
breaker condition (if you have one?)
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On 29/04/13 9:50 AM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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Hey guys,<br>
<br>
More pricing has been added/updated... thanks
for the info all.<br>
<br>
For those who were getting a 404.. Welcome to
the world of IPv6...<br>
whoops.. I was using the wrong IP damnit.<br>
<br>
<br>
...Skeeve<br>
<br>
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wrote:<br>
<br>
Hey all,<br>
<br>
OK.. after a pile of responses about peering
prices, and almost as<br>
many asking for me to share the info I
collected... I've put it in<br>
a blog post for all to access.<br>
<br>
If you have any information about peering
pricing that you wish to<br>
share with me privately, but don't mind me
adding to the post...<br>
then let me know and I will update it.<br>
<br>
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target="_blank">http://theispguy.com/peeringpricing/</a><br>
<br>
Later, I might turn this into a resource
that I keep updated. At<br>
the moment working on a project to document
all Australian<br>
datacentres/tail providers... but be
patient.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
...Skeeve<br>
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wrote:<br>
<br>
Hey all,<br>
<br>
If possible, I am wanting to find out
how much Pipe and Equinix<br>
peering costs at the moment for 100mb
and 1Gb links.<br>
<br>
I know there was some price drops a
while ago, but not sure what<br>
the current buy price is.<br>
<br>
I could wait till Monday and ask them,
but I have to write some<br>
recommendations up over the weekend.<br>
<br>
Please feel free to reply to me
off-list.<br>
<br>
...Skeeve<br>
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