<div dir="ltr">Should have a look at traceroutes from primus, they're more assuming. Leaves primus via pipe in sydney and then enters into their equinix link
then onto TPG. Either someone has broken something, or stupid peering
policy kicking in..<br><div><br></div><div><div>4 <a href="http://xe-0-0-1.csr03.mel.iprimus.net.au">xe-0-0-1.csr03.mel.iprimus.net.au</a> (203.134.24.241) [MPLS: Label 665632 Exp 0] 12 msec</div><div>5 <a href="http://as7545.sydney.pipenetworks.com">as7545.sydney.pipenetworks.com</a> (218.100.2.40) [AS 18398] 28 msec</div>
<div>6 <a href="http://irb-5.bsr01.equ.iprimus.net.au">irb-5.bsr01.equ.iprimus.net.au</a> (210.50.143.163) 24 msec</div><div>7 <a href="http://nme-sot-dry-crt2-Gi3-0-0.tpgi.com.au">nme-sot-dry-crt2-Gi3-0-0.tpgi.com.au</a> (203.12.162.238) [AS 7545] 24 msec</div>
</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 May 2013 17:46, Joshua D'Alton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au" target="_blank">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Less of a problem than all international traffic returning via PPC1, adding a good 60ms to eastbound. And unfortunately the routing policies don't seem to differ between residential and commercial (dsl and fiber), though I don't know of any AU provider that does (maybe AAPT before they sold residential?). What exetel do with traffic is interesting too, it might indeed be as Skeeve suggests, the death of pipe peering...<div class="HOEnZb">
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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 5:06 PM, Brett <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bwtricky89@gmail.com" target="_blank">bwtricky89@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">You could always do what TPG are current doing and having all PIPE traffic return via Sydney regardless of state it originates from. It's quite lovely with what they come up with..<div><br></div><div><div>
1 <a href="http://vl102.cor2.mel6.on.ii.net" target="_blank">vl102.cor2.mel6.on.ii.net</a> (150.101.212.246) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec</div><div>2 <a href="http://gi2-0-0.bdr1.mel6.on.ii.net" target="_blank">gi2-0-0.bdr1.mel6.on.ii.net</a> (150.101.210.138) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec</div>
<div>3 <a href="http://te2-0-0.bdr1.cbr1.on.ii.net" target="_blank">te2-0-0.bdr1.cbr1.on.ii.net</a> (150.101.160.173) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec</div><div>4 <a href="http://xe-0-0-0.cr1.cbr2.on.ii.net" target="_blank">xe-0-0-0.cr1.cbr2.on.ii.net</a> (150.101.33.84) 12 msec 8 msec 8 msec</div>
<div>5 <a href="http://ae2.br1.syd4.on.ii.net" target="_blank">ae2.br1.syd4.on.ii.net</a> (150.101.33.22) 36 msec 12 msec 12 msec</div><div>6 <a href="http://p7545.syd.equinix.com" target="_blank">p7545.syd.equinix.com</a> (202.167.228.79) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec</div>
<div>7 <a href="http://nme-nxg-wal-crt2-ge-6-0-0.tpgi.com.au" target="_blank">nme-nxg-wal-crt2-ge-6-0-0.tpgi.com.au</a> (202.7.162.53) 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec</div></div><div><br></div><div><div>1 <a href="http://gi1-20-102.cor1.adl6.on.ii.net" target="_blank">gi1-20-102.cor1.adl6.on.ii.net</a> (203.16.215.14) 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec</div>
<div>2 <a href="http://xe-11-0-0.cr1.adl6.on.ii.net" target="_blank">xe-11-0-0.cr1.adl6.on.ii.net</a> (150.101.225.229) 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec</div><div>3 <a href="http://ae4.br1.syd7.on.ii.net" target="_blank">ae4.br1.syd7.on.ii.net</a> (150.101.33.34) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec</div>
<div>4 <a href="http://as7545.sydney.pipenetworks.com" target="_blank">as7545.sydney.pipenetworks.com</a> (218.100.2.40) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec</div><div>5 <a href="http://nme-sot-dry-crt2-Gi3-0-0.tpgi.com.au" target="_blank">nme-sot-dry-crt2-Gi3-0-0.tpgi.com.au</a> (203.12.162.238) 20 msec 20 msec 20 msec</div>
</div></div><div><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 3 May 2013 14:03, Luke Iggleden <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:luke+ausnog@sisgroup.com.au" target="_blank">luke+ausnog@sisgroup.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hey Skeeve + List,<br>
<br>
I'm interested in routing policy for each connected peer. Did anyone provide insight into how they are electing egress paths?<br>
<br>
We local pref equinix due to least cost, however, we seem to have a lot more ingress flows via pipe peering.<br>
<br>
Are operators local preffing pipe peering over equinix or vice versa or are you just letting as-path length decide?<br>
<br>
If you're letting AS-PATH decide what is your tie breaker condition (if you have one?)<div><br>
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Hey guys,<br>
<br>
More pricing has been added/updated... thanks for the info all.<br>
<br>
For those who were getting a 404.. Welcome to the world of IPv6...<br>
whoops.. I was using the wrong IP damnit.<br>
<br>
<br>
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Hey all,<br>
<br>
OK.. after a pile of responses about peering prices, and almost as<br>
many asking for me to share the info I collected... I've put it in<br>
a blog post for all to access.<br>
<br>
If you have any information about peering pricing that you wish to<br>
share with me privately, but don't mind me adding to the post...<br>
then let me know and I will update it.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://theispguy.com/peeringpricing/" target="_blank">http://theispguy.com/<u></u>peeringpricing/</a><br>
<br>
Later, I might turn this into a resource that I keep updated. At<br>
the moment working on a project to document all Australian<br>
datacentres/tail providers... but be patient.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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On Sun, Apr 28, 2013 at 1:32 AM, Skeeve Stevens<br>
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<mailto:<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@<u></u>eintellegonetworks.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
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Hey all,<br>
<br>
If possible, I am wanting to find out how much Pipe and Equinix<br>
peering costs at the moment for 100mb and 1Gb links.<br>
<br>
I know there was some price drops a while ago, but not sure what<br>
the current buy price is.<br>
<br>
I could wait till Monday and ask them, but I have to write some<br>
recommendations up over the weekend.<br>
<br>
Please feel free to reply to me off-list.<br>
<br>
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