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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Telco's forced to break hard
      encryption. Sounds like somebody's seen to many movies. <br>
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      Matt.<br>
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      On 25/04/13 8:34 AM, Nick Gale wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">I was generalizing not referring to anything
        specifically. If you take skype as an example though it uses a
        256bit key but it wouldn't be considered insecure. Key length
        alone doesn't make the ciphertext secure if your cipher is weak.
        If you used a 2048bit key with a substitution cipher it would
        not take long to figure out.
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        <div style="">All I was pointing out was that people would start
          developing stronger encryption methods for comms as companies
          are forced by governments to work on breaking them, or, as
          governments themselves are known to be able to crack those
          comms. Also as I said thats not different from today's world
          but with laws like this going through or trying to be passed
          in more countries it becomes more public and noticeable the
          developments around comms encryption as people have an
          interest in protecting their privacy.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On 25 April 2013 06:23, Joshua D'Alton
          <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au" target="_blank">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>></span>
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            <p>How is 2048bit key encyrption an arms race?</p>
            <p>sent from android</p>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 25, 2013 8:22 AM, "Nick
                  Gale" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    <div dir="ltr">All that would happen would be an
                      arms race in encryption/decryption technologies.
                      As one is able to be cracked so another will rise
                      to replace it. Thats not really different than
                      today though but it may just be more apparent.
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                      <div>Also people are becoming more aware in
                        general about their security and protecting
                        themselves better. Guberments are starting
                        to realize they are losing the ability to
                        monitor their citizens where necessary by law,
                        (It doesn't help that these same guberments
                        abused the laws in the first place though) and
                        are starting to look at ways to get that control
                        back.</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">On 25 April 2013
                            06:07, Dobbins, Roland <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                                On Apr 24, 2013, at 10:38 PM, Skeeve
                                Stevens wrote:<br>
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                                > requirements for operators to break
                                encyrption<br>
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                              The encryption stuff as noted in the
                              article (surely it's wrong?) is both
                              insane and impossible, for all practical
                              purposes - not to mention highly
                              undesirable.<br>
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