<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt">I agree, this is a NOG list, surely most of the people who would be wanting/needing to post to the list are masters of their own DNS/destiny or can work with whoever is to get an entry added ?<br><br>regards,<br>Tony.<br><br>(yes, I'm posting from a yahoo account, do they have SFP/TXT records, I don't know and haven't bothered to check. If it becomes an issue for me not being able to post to the list then I'll happily deal with it)<br><br><div><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span
style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Karl Hardisty <karl@mothership.co.nz><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "ausnog@ausnog.net" <ausnog@ausnog.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 24 April 2013 2:17 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] Conspiracy? Manupulation? See it for yourself!<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv1752280832"><div>What's the point of bringing in measures to fight spam if everyone ignores it?<div><br></div><div>Enforce it, and drag the providers who are ignoring it into the 21st century.</div><div><br></div><div>As for not having control over one's own DNS, I'll let others debate the merits of that.<br><div><br><div>
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<br><div><div>On 24/04/2013, at 4:13 PM, Heinz N <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ausnog@equisoft.com.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog@equisoft.com.au">ausnog@equisoft.com.au</a>> wrote:</div><br class="yiv1752280832Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Not everyone has SPF or TXT records. If the MTA enforces SPF, then senders without it will get bounced. Also note that not everyone has control of their DNS. It is sad that there is so little usage of SPF & TXT records in the wild. If *everyone* has SPF then spam would be heavily diminished. Unfortunately there are just too many people who don't like adding extra records in their zone files.<br><br>- Heinz<br><br>On Wed, 24 Apr 2013, Chris Jones wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">Wouldn't a simpler solution be:<br><br>1. Add an SPF record for <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://ausnog.net/">ausnog.net</a><br>2. Enforce this on <a rel="nofollow"
target="_blank" href="http://lists.ausnog.net/">lists.ausnog.net</a><br><br>??<br></blockquote></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div><br></div> </div> </div> </blockquote></div> </div></body></html>