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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Transit oversubscription is not a trivial challenge. To suggest that it’ll simply disappear some-time soon is like suggesting that the peak hour congestion on the Sydney Harbour Bridge is going to magically evaporate soon, or to suggest that power oversubscription in QLD in summer will magically disappear & the investment in ‘smart grid’ will largely be wasted. When I was a kid there was almost never any congestion on the single lane Gold Coast – Brisbane highway, yet today the 8-10 lane superhighway that replaced that road locks daily from 30kms south of Brisbane.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ah … the breathtakingly insensitive comments by Minister Conroy suggesting that he might snap his fingers & build a trunk across to California to further competition spring to mind! ‘m then reminded of the observation of Michael Malone, CEO of iinet who said something like “Stephen Conroy is the worst Telecommunications Minister to ever hold office”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Karl Hardisty<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 16, 2013 7:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Very funny NBN skit<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Oversubscription is insane presently, but when backhaul and international connectivity catches up?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The alternative is for slow end user speeds, which requires addressing via a national rollout of some sort, which requires….<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>See where we're going here? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Pick your poison.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>k.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-tab-span> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#C00000'>l</span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#4A442A'>E</span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#4A442A'> <a href="mailto:karl@mothership.co.nz">karl@mothership.co.nz</a> </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#C00000'>l</span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#4A442A'>W </span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#4A442A'><a href="http://mothership.co.nz">mothership.co.nz</a> </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#C00000'>l</span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#4A442A'>A</span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#4A442A'> PO Box 99814, Newmarket</span></span><span class=apple-style-span><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#515151'> </span></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#C00000'>l</span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#4A442A'>M </span></b></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#4A442A'>021 999 990 </span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#C00000'>l</span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#4A442A'>P</span></b></span><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#4A442A'> 974 3171</span></span><span class=apple-style-span><b><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Gill Sans MT","sans-serif";color:#515151'> </span></b></span><span lang=EN-GB> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 16/04/2013, at 9:02 PM, Joshua D'Alton <<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Aye, except the over subscription is insane. Obviously it is probably similar with google fiber, but those japanese plans are designed mostly for national traffic, not international. And again probably obviously you can draw the same conclusion with just about any country including AU, but I guess the point is, you shouldn't drool too much, most of the internet cannot be reached much beyond 50-100Mbps anyway, so unless you want lots of parallel..<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 6:58 PM, Tim March <<a href="mailto:march.tim@gmail.com" target="_blank">march.tim@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><br>Did anyone else catch this today...<br><br><a href="http://www.geek.com/news/japanese-isp-leaves-google-fiber-in-the-dust-with-2gbps-downloads-1552115/" target="_blank">http://www.geek.com/news/japanese-isp-leaves-google-fiber-in-the-dust-with-2gbps-downloads-1552115/</a><br><br>"While the United States drools over Google Fiber‘s $70 per month residential internet speeds of 700Mbps up and down as it slowly rolls out to certain parts of the country, a Japanese ISP has left those mind-boggling speeds in the dust. For just $51 per month (if subscribed with a two-year contract), So-net Entertainment will provide customers with a 2Gbps download speed, and a 1Gbps upload speed."<span style='color:#888888'><br><br><br><br><span class=hoenzb>T.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br>On 16/04/13 6:54 PM, Kai wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I like Turnbull's reasoning but so far I'm not keen on his proposed methods...<br><a href="http://www.skynews.com.au/politics/article.aspx?id=862621&vId=3906806" target="_blank">http://www.skynews.com.au/politics/article.aspx?id=862621&vId=3906806</a><br><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "Skeeve Stevens" <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellegonetworks.com</a>><br>To: "<<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>><br>Sent: Tuesday, 16 April, 2013 4:33:12 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / Hong Kong / Urumqi<br>Subject: [AusNOG] Very funny NBN skit<br><br><br><br><br>This should lighten the mood.<br><br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TptIs0k-spg&list=UUPyb1dDiGoZ07j_DKzam4sQ&index=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TptIs0k-spg&list=UUPyb1dDiGoZ07j_DKzam4sQ&index=1</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>...Skeeve<br><br><br><br>Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd<br><br><a href="mailto:skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com" target="_blank">skeeve@eintellegonetworks.com</a> ; <a href="http://www.eintellegonetworks.com/" target="_blank">www.eintellegonetworks.com</a><br><br>Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell <a href="tel:%2B61%20%280%29414%20753%20383" target="_blank">+61 (0)414 753 383</a> ; <a href="skype://skeeve">skype://skeeve</a><br><br><a href="http://facebook.com/eintellegonetworks" target="_blank">facebook.com/eintellegonetworks</a> ; <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/skeeve" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/skeeve</a><br><br><a href="http://twitter.com/networkceoau" target="_blank">twitter.com/networkceoau</a> ; blog: <a href="http://www.network-ceo.net/" target="_blank">www.network-ceo.net</a><br><br><br><br><br>The Experts Who The Experts Call<br>Juniper - Cisco - Cloud<br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog" target="_blank">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>AusNOG mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><a href="http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog">http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>