<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:bookman old style, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span><font size="3">Once off vetting, and then having people control themselves is going to be far less moderation effort than having a small set of moderators have to read each and every email and hit some of them on the head. The threat of losing your </font>privilege<font size="3"> of being able to participate should be enough to make people moderate themselves, or quickly stop if they are told by others that they've crossed the line.</font></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><span><font size="3"><br></font></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; background-color: transparent; font-style:
normal;"><span><font size="3">If issues such as this one need to get into the public domain, they will indirectly.</font></span></div><div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: 'bookman old style', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> James Hodgkinson <yaleman@ricetek.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 14 April 2013 8:49 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG]
Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to melbournefreeuniversity.org.<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br><div id="yiv2130483645"><div dir="ltr">No reason to start a new list or "vet" people onto it, just get some moderators who slap down threads and make sure it stays on-topic :)<div>
<div><br></div><div>James</div></div><div class="yiv2130483645gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv2130483645gmail_quote">On 13 April 2013 18:28, Bevan Slattery <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold;">From: </span> McDonald Richards <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:McDonald.Richards@vocus.com.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:McDonald.Richards@vocus.com.au">McDonald.Richards@vocus.com.au</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold;">Date: </span> Saturday, 13 April 2013 5:39 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold;">To: </span> Danny O'Brien <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:danny@spesh.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:danny@spesh.com">danny@spesh.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc: </span> "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>, Nathan Nogic <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:nathan@mds.au.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:nathan@mds.au.com">nathan@mds.au.com</a>><div>
<br><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject: </span> Re: [AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://melbournefreeuniversity.org/">melbournefreeuniversity.org</a>.<br></div></div><div>
<div><br></div><div><div><div>> The lack of response is less about conspiracy and more about apathy.</div></div></div></div></span><div><br></div><div>Yeah – However, my apathy is not because of journos but because Ausnog is no longer a network operators group, but a splinter of Whirlpool.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It feeling like trying to have an discussion of the NBN in a Whirlpool thread in 2010/11. Anyone for a true Network Operators Group email list? This is just tiring and filling up my inbox…</div><span><font color="#888888"><div>
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