I'm not against a more closed, vetted list. <div><br></div><div>Agree that moderation is silly. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 4:29 PM, Joshua D'Alton <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joshua@railgun.com.au" target="_blank">joshua@railgun.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The problem with that is it might take 3 hours to get a post moderated. I'd say that is a long time for networks to not be able to 'fix' things. People probably wouldn't bother and would just use IRC or skype or plain email to the contacts they've found through ausnog.<div>
<br></div><div>Are there really that many threads (not posts, threads) on here taking up peoples time to the extent they feel this is necessary?<div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Phillip Grasso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:phillip.grasso@gmail.com" target="_blank">phillip.grasso@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Most of topics aren't unreasonable, thoughts on setup a smaller list that is concentrated / moderated etc. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I like the format </div><div><br></div><div>
ausnog (mostly network operators). </div><div>ausnog-ops (moderated list australian network operators). </div><div>ausnog-jobs (jobs posting). </div><div>ausnog-trades (sales/buying, trades, borrowing parts etc). </div>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Mark Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
</div><div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:bookman old style,new york,times,serif"><div><span><font size="3">Once off vetting, and then having people control themselves is going to be far less moderation effort than having a small set of moderators have to read each and every email and hit some of them on the head. The threat of losing your </font>privilege<font size="3"> of being able to participate should be enough to make people moderate themselves, or quickly stop if they are told by others that they've crossed the line.</font></span></div>
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<span><font size="3">If issues such as this one need to get into the public domain, they will indirectly.</font></span></div><div style="font-family:'bookman old style','new york',times,serif;font-size:12pt">
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<div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> James Hodgkinson <<a href="mailto:yaleman@ricetek.net" target="_blank">yaleman@ricetek.net</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, 14 April 2013 8:49 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG]
Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to <a href="http://melbournefreeuniversity.org" target="_blank">melbournefreeuniversity.org</a>.<br> </font> </div> <div><br><div><div dir="ltr">No reason to start a new list or "vet" people onto it, just get some moderators who slap down threads and make sure it stays on-topic :)<div>
<div><br></div><div>James</div></div><div><br><br><div>On 13 April 2013 18:28, Bevan Slattery <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:bevan@slattery.net.au" target="_blank">bevan@slattery.net.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span> McDonald Richards <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:McDonald.Richards@vocus.com.au" target="_blank">McDonald.Richards@vocus.com.au</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span> Saturday, 13 April 2013 5:39 PM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span> Danny O'Brien <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:danny@spesh.com" target="_blank">danny@spesh.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span> "<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>>, Nathan Nogic <<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:nathan@mds.au.com" target="_blank">nathan@mds.au.com</a>><div>
<br><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span> Re: [AusNOG] Understanding lack of Aus connectivity to <a rel="nofollow" href="http://melbournefreeuniversity.org/" target="_blank">melbournefreeuniversity.org</a>.<br>
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<div><br></div><div><div><div>> The lack of response is less about conspiracy and more about apathy.</div></div></div></div></span><div><br></div><div>Yeah – However, my apathy is not because of journos but because Ausnog is no longer a network operators group, but a splinter of Whirlpool.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It feeling like trying to have an discussion of the NBN in a Whirlpool thread in 2010/11. Anyone for a true Network Operators Group email list? This is just tiring and filling up my inbox…</div><span><font color="#888888"><div>
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