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    So, the initial questions I have for AAPT at this point are;<br>
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        1. Under what directive are you blocking traffic to IP
    addresses? Are you voluntarily complying with some sort of
    government filtering initiative or doing so at the request of some
    other law enforcement agency - eg, AFP, as some people have
    suggested ?<br>
    <br>
        2. How are requests to block particular IP addresses processed -
    Are you provided with a complete list from $Organisation/$Agency
    from time to time, or do you add individual /32 or other blocks to
    the list as requested ?<br>
    <br>
        3. Who is responsibly for the administration of that list at
    both the presumed external agency and internally at AAPT ?<br>
        <br>
        4. How many IP addresses is AAPT currently blocking either
    voluntarily or in compliance with whatever LEA request ?<br>
    <br>
        5. Is this list made publicly available for review? If it's not
    already published (I'm guessing it's not) is AAPT willing to provide
    a copy of the current list for review ?<br>
    <br>
    Obviously most members of the list can take fairly educated guesses
    at most of the above, but I'd like a specific, public answer from
    either AAPT or another carrier to each of the questions...<br>
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    T.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/04/13 5:46 PM, Matt Perkins
      wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Wouldn't they need to tell all
        carriage service providers. We can still get to it via one of
        our other links. If we dont know we have to block it how would
        we do so.  Also you can add pipe to the list looks like they are
        blocking it as well.<br>
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        Matt.<br>
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        On 11/04/13 5:42 PM, Geordie Guy wrote:<br>
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        <p dir="ltr">That filter uses DNS poisoning. The more likely
          scenario is the AFP can issue direction that an ISP "take
          reasonable steps to uphold the law" and they're issued that
          here with an IP as the target.</p>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On 11/04/2013 5:39 PM, "Damian Guppy"
          <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:the.damo@gmail.com">the.damo@gmail.com</a>>

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            <div dir="ltr">Given all the people saying internode / iinet
              works fine, and their market size, I would have to think
              we are looking at a voluntary implementation of a
              government filter. Which I think is pretty poor form for
              Telstra / Optus / AAPT to be forcing their (ineffective)
              filter onto their downstream customers without any sort
              of acknowledgement. This is probably one of thoes things
              that needs to blow up on whirlpool to get a real response
              out of whoever as to what is happening.
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              <div>Of course, if this is a new addition to
                the rumored mandatory blacklist that all ISP's have to
                adhear to it could just be iiNet havent updated their
                tables. </div>
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              <div> --Damian</div>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM,
                Benjamin Donald-Wilson <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:benny@thesii.org" target="_blank">benny@thesii.org</a>></span>
                wrote:<br>
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                      style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">Yep,
                      works from a friend's Internode connection in
                      Sydney.</div>
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                          <div> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Heinz N
                            <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                href="mailto:ausnog@equisoft.com.au"
                                target="_blank">ausnog@equisoft.com.au</a>></span>
                            wrote:<br>
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                                On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Benjamin
                                Donald-Wilson wrote:<br>
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                                  style="margin:0 0 0
                                  .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                  solid;padding-left:1ex"> I just got
                                  someone to check the website though
                                  his University<br>
                                  of Queensland VPN. He says he can
                                  access it though that but not directly<br>
                                  though his normal Bigpond internet
                                  connection.<br>
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                              Yeah, I can get to it through an OS Proxy
                              & TOR network. If these idiot
                              politicians think they can stop anyone
                              getting to anywhere, they are deluded. A
                              12 year old could get past this "block".
                              This is what comes of having clueless
                              politicians trying to "regulate" something
                              that they have never used. They will only
                              be happy when they block /0<br>
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                        <div style="font-family:'trebuchet
                          ms',sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Yep, no
                          doubt a 12 year old could get past the block,
                          I'm only a few years older then that.</div>
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