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So, the initial questions I have for AAPT at this point are;<br>
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1. Under what directive are you blocking traffic to IP
addresses? Are you voluntarily complying with some sort of
government filtering initiative or doing so at the request of some
other law enforcement agency - eg, AFP, as some people have
suggested ?<br>
<br>
2. How are requests to block particular IP addresses processed -
Are you provided with a complete list from $Organisation/$Agency
from time to time, or do you add individual /32 or other blocks to
the list as requested ?<br>
<br>
3. Who is responsibly for the administration of that list at
both the presumed external agency and internally at AAPT ?<br>
<br>
4. How many IP addresses is AAPT currently blocking either
voluntarily or in compliance with whatever LEA request ?<br>
<br>
5. Is this list made publicly available for review? If it's not
already published (I'm guessing it's not) is AAPT willing to provide
a copy of the current list for review ?<br>
<br>
Obviously most members of the list can take fairly educated guesses
at most of the above, but I'd like a specific, public answer from
either AAPT or another carrier to each of the questions...<br>
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T.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/04/13 5:46 PM, Matt Perkins
wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Wouldn't they need to tell all
carriage service providers. We can still get to it via one of
our other links. If we dont know we have to block it how would
we do so. Also you can add pipe to the list looks like they are
blocking it as well.<br>
<br>
Matt.<br>
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On 11/04/13 5:42 PM, Geordie Guy wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">That filter uses DNS poisoning. The more likely
scenario is the AFP can issue direction that an ISP "take
reasonable steps to uphold the law" and they're issued that
here with an IP as the target.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 11/04/2013 5:39 PM, "Damian Guppy"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:the.damo@gmail.com">the.damo@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Given all the people saying internode / iinet
works fine, and their market size, I would have to think
we are looking at a voluntary implementation of a
government filter. Which I think is pretty poor form for
Telstra / Optus / AAPT to be forcing their (ineffective)
filter onto their downstream customers without any sort
of acknowledgement. This is probably one of thoes things
that needs to blow up on whirlpool to get a real response
out of whoever as to what is happening.
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<div>Of course, if this is a new addition to
the rumored mandatory blacklist that all ISP's have to
adhear to it could just be iiNet havent updated their
tables. </div>
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<div> --Damian</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 3:32 PM,
Benjamin Donald-Wilson <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:benny@thesii.org" target="_blank">benny@thesii.org</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:'trebuchet ms',sans-serif">Yep,
works from a friend's Internode connection in
Sydney.</div>
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<div> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Heinz N
<span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ausnog@equisoft.com.au"
target="_blank">ausnog@equisoft.com.au</a>></span>
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#ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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On Thu, 11 Apr 2013, Benjamin
Donald-Wilson wrote:<br>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex"> I just got
someone to check the website though
his University<br>
of Queensland VPN. He says he can
access it though that but not directly<br>
though his normal Bigpond internet
connection.<br>
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Yeah, I can get to it through an OS Proxy
& TOR network. If these idiot
politicians think they can stop anyone
getting to anywhere, they are deluded. A
12 year old could get past this "block".
This is what comes of having clueless
politicians trying to "regulate" something
that they have never used. They will only
be happy when they block /0<br>
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<div style="font-family:'trebuchet
ms',sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Yep, no
doubt a 12 year old could get past the block,
I'm only a few years older then that.</div>
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