<div dir="ltr">If it was a few cuts or a couple (dozen) meters of cable I would say terrorism, but stealing 16 tons of cable and going to the effort of bringing it back with you and loading it on trucks seems more like blatant theft to me.<div>

<br></div><div style>--Damian</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Joseph Goldman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au" target="_blank">joe@apcs.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br>

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    <div>Or a pure act of Terrorism? Not quite
      on the same scale but I admit to once being employed by a company
      that had to take emergency measures after some boring hardware
      failure to lay fibre across roof tops to maintain connectivity in
      acertain regional NSW town, and I am sure I remember seeing more
      than one purposeful looking 'kink' in the fibre from possible
      disgruntled citizens. I thought that was pretty annoying but
      someone coming and stealing a chunk of your cable would be quite
      bad when it holds that much capacity!<div><div class="h5"><br>
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      On 10/04/13 20:20, Damian Guppy wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Maybe they think that they are copper cables or
        something? There is a fair amount of metal in them (usually
        stranded steel) for structual integrity so they might (must?) be
        doing it for the scrap value.
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Mark
          Smith <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au" target="_blank">markzzzsmith@yahoo.com.au</a>></span>
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            Is there a (black)market for 2nd hand submarine cable, or is
            there something it is made with that is valuable enough to
            make it worth stealing (copper perhaps?). It isn't going to
            be the cleanest thing to buy and either redeploy or pull
            apart.<br>
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            Regards,<br>
            Mark.<br>
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                > To: Gaurab Raj Upadhaya <<a href="mailto:gaurab@lahai.com" target="_blank">gaurab@lahai.com</a>><br>
                > Cc: "<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>"
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                > Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013 5:17 PM<br>
                > Subject: Re: [AusNOG] SMW3 Restoration<br>
                ><br>
                > Exactly what I heard.  One cable and restoration
                via terrestrial/festoon was<br>
                > crazy :)<br>
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                > On 10/04/2013, at 5:11 PM, Gaurab Raj Upadhaya <<a href="mailto:gaurab@lahai.com" target="_blank">gaurab@lahai.com</a>>
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                >>  On 4/10/13 7:51 AM, Bevan Slattery wrote:<br>
                >>>  And that was sent to me by another cable
                owner who was affected.<br>
                >>>  3 cables were apparently affected in this
                alleged and as yet<br>
                >>>  unconfirmed act of sabotage.<br>
                >><br>
                >>  from a cable owner, this sabotage effected all
                but one cable between<br>
                >>  SG-ID, and happened in a span of 3 weeks or
                so. SMW3 on the SG-ID<br>
                >>  segment was affected in addition to the fault
                already on the ID-AU<br>
                >>  segment. Restoration firefight, he said was
                massive.<br>
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                >>  - -gaurab<br>
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