<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div>> Got a free link, seems silly to pay for something like that..</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Why would you want to pay for a copy of a standard you rely on to ensure that it was complete and not adulterated?</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">IEC 80000 is
one part of ISO 80000, which covers a very wide range of units and measures - most of physics and chemistry. part 13 is just related to IT.<br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 16px; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;"><br></div><div> </div><div>Lloyd Wood<br>lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk<br>http://sat-net.com/L.Wood<br><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Joshua D'Alton <joshua@railgun.com.au><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Lloyd Wood <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Narelle <narellec@gmail.com>; "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net"
<ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 26 March 2013, 17:56<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] [SAGE-AU Discuss] [RESULTS] Straw poll: what is your email message size limit?<br> </font> </div> <br><div id="yiv843693125">Got a free link, seems silly to pay for something like that..<br><br><div class="yiv843693125gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Lloyd Wood <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk">lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="yiv843693125gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;"><div class="yiv843693125im"><div style="font-size:12pt;">
<span>> I will, however, continue to be tolerant and indulge the use of kB<br>> when people mean KB or KiB, as this is a Recommendation, and not a<br>> Standard.</span></div><div style="font-size:12pt;">
</div><div style="font-size:12pt;"><br></div></div><div style="font-size:12pt;">It's a standard. Please read IEC 80000 section 13.</div>
<div><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail?csnumber=31898">http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail?csnumber=31898</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Use of multiples of 1024 remains entrenched for memory, however it is indicated. For storage, marketing favours 1000. For comms, only 1000 is
sane.</div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:sans-serif;font-size:13px;line-height:19.1875px;"><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;margin-bottom:0.5em;font-family:sans-serif;margin-top:0.4em;">
Using an IBM/360 as your first computer doesn't count, as they survived decades (and much software is still running on zSeries). Only getting it installed new from the factory does.</div></span></div><div class="yiv843693125im"><div style="font-size:12pt;">
<br></div><div style="font-size:12pt;">Lloyd Wood<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk">lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk</a><br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://sat-net.com/L.Wood">http://sat-net.com/L.Wood</a><br>
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<font face="Arial"><div class="yiv843693125hm yiv843693125HOEnZb"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Narelle <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:narellec@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:narellec@gmail.com">narellec@gmail.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> Lloyd Wood <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk">lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Cc:</span></b> Paul Gear <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ausnog@libertysys.com.au" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog@libertysys.com.au">ausnog@libertysys.com.au</a>>; "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 26 March 2013, 17:16</div><div class="yiv843693125im"><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] [SAGE-AU Discuss] [RESULTS] Straw poll: what is your email message size limit?<br>
</div></font> </div><div><div class="yiv843693125h5"> <br>Warning issued: this is now dangerously close to the "my first<br>computer thread" [1], which will have to be shut down or sent off<br>list.<br><br>On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Lloyd Wood <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank" href="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk">lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>
>> Bytes are 8 bits. Always were, always will be.<br>><br>> Um, no. You are probably too young to remember 4-bit and 6-bit bytes and<br>> other popular word sizes.<br>><br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte</a><br>
<br>Actually I am old enough to not only have forgotten but be so grumpy<br>about the (ab)usage that I am now happily reminded (more than once) of<br>this fact.<br><br>Ahh. Character encoding. That takes me back.<br><br>>> Even the worst pedants will accept variations on the use of K (1024<br>
>> also Kelvin) for k (1000) as often these are misused.<br>><br>> Um, no. That's why the worst pedants developed<br>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541</a><br>
<br>:-)<br><br>I love being outdone in the
pedantry. It makes me look *so* moderate.<br>Tolerant even.<br><br>I will, however, continue to be tolerant and indulge the use of kB<br>when people mean KB or KiB, as this is a Recommendation, and not a<br>Standard.<br>
<br>My real dream, however, is that people will revert to the true use of<br>ports and identify their traffic with nice little numbers in their<br>headers that match the actual flow... rather than 80...<br><br><br>[1] IBM 360<br>
<br>-- <br><br><br>Narelle<br><a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:narellec@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:narellec@gmail.com">narellec@gmail.com</a><br><br><br> </div></div></div> </div> </div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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