<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span>> I will, however, continue to be tolerant and indulge the use of kB<br>> when people mean KB or KiB, as this is a Recommendation, and not a<br>> Standard.</span></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">It's a standard. Please read IEC 80000 section 13.</div><div>http://www.iso.org/iso/catalogue_detail?csnumber=31898<br></div><div><br></div><div>Use of multiples of 1024 remains entrenched for memory, however it is indicated. For storage, marketing favours 1000. For comms, only 1000 is
sane.</div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><span style="font-family: sans-serif; font-size: 13px; line-height: 19.1875px;"><div style="margin-top: 0.4em; margin-bottom: 0.5em; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13px; font-family: sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;">Using an IBM/360 as your first computer doesn't count, as they survived decades (and much software is still running on zSeries). Only getting it installed new from the factory does.</div></span></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;">Lloyd Wood<br>lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk<br>http://sat-net.com/L.Wood<br><br></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new
york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Narelle <narellec@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Lloyd Wood <lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Paul Gear <ausnog@libertysys.com.au>; "ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, 26 March 2013, 17:16<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] [SAGE-AU Discuss] [RESULTS] Straw poll: what is your email message size limit?<br> </font> </div> <br>Warning issued: this is now dangerously close to the "my first<br>computer thread" [1], which will have to be shut down or sent off<br>list.<br><br>On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Lloyd Wood <<a ymailto="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk"
href="mailto:lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk">lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br>>> Bytes are 8 bits. Always were, always will be.<br>><br>> Um, no. You are probably too young to remember 4-bit and 6-bit bytes and<br>> other popular word sizes.<br>><br>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byte</a><br><br>Actually I am old enough to not only have forgotten but be so grumpy<br>about the (ab)usage that I am now happily reminded (more than once) of<br>this fact.<br><br>Ahh. Character encoding. That takes me back.<br><br>>> Even the worst pedants will accept variations on the use of K (1024<br>>> also Kelvin) for k (1000) as often these are misused.<br>><br>> Um, no. That's why the worst pedants developed<br>> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1541</a><br><br>:-)<br><br>I love being outdone in the
pedantry. It makes me look *so* moderate.<br>Tolerant even.<br><br>I will, however, continue to be tolerant and indulge the use of kB<br>when people mean KB or KiB, as this is a Recommendation, and not a<br>Standard.<br><br>My real dream, however, is that people will revert to the true use of<br>ports and identify their traffic with nice little numbers in their<br>headers that match the actual flow... rather than 80...<br><br><br>[1] IBM 360<br><br>-- <br><br><br>Narelle<br><a ymailto="mailto:narellec@gmail.com" href="mailto:narellec@gmail.com">narellec@gmail.com</a><br><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body></html>