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--></style></head><body lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">It was more about the other people that are abusing it from many years ago, as Bev mentioned, people sitting on /9’s etc</span></p>
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<b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joshua D'Alton<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 03, 2013 6:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] IPv4</span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">
Yea its called real life and politics. If changing the world only required a single email to a single mailing list... well it'd be changing a few billion times a day. In this case maybe your one email will result in something useful to the community, but quibbling over the potential profiteering from the last .5% of IP space might seem petty hence some blasting :/</p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Just as your "<span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d;background:white">They were customers, once I found out what they were doing. They were no longer customers, because I have a very strong view of not abusing the system" </span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";background:white">might seem pretty petty. If you terminated them just because of a perceived abuse of the system, seems a bit like shooting yourself in the foot. How are you going to buy any of these /22s from abusing companies when they won't do business with you?</span></p>
<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:06 PM, Jared Hirst <<a href="mailto:jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au" target="_blank">jared.hirst@serversaustralia.com.au</a>> wrote:</p><p class="MsoNormal">Perfect, that was I guess the main concern I had, and I was blasted and<br>
told to attend policy meetings to make a change.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] On Behalf Of James Spenceley<br>Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2013 6:01 PM<br>To: Bevan Slattery<br>Cc: <a href="mailto:AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net">AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] IPv4</p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">One thing I think makes sense from this debate is that people would like a<br>well publicized way to report abuse of the system.<br><br>That is pretty easily achieved, I'll get on that.<br>
<br>James<br><br><br><br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>On 03/03/2013, at 14:56, Bevan Slattery <<a href="mailto:Bevan.Slattery@nextdc.com">Bevan.Slattery@nextdc.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Actually, I'll correct my previous post:<br>
><br>><br>>> Do I think the RIR's and APNIC have erred here?  You bet.  Do I<br>>> actually think they should have done better - absolutely no question.<br>>> Do I think they could have done something different? Yep too.<br>
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