Their position is just stupid.  Heavy downloaders? I am not even sure what that means with Telstra.<div><br></div><div>They have no unlimited plan.  I subscribe to the 500Gb plan.  If I download my full 500Gb, am I a heavy downloader? NO, I am someone who is using what I paid for.</div>

<div><br></div><div>Telstra need to wake up and realise they have no such thing as heavy downloaders, just people who are entitled to download what they've paid for.</div><div><br></div><div>TPG on the other hand... or anyone else with unlimited plans... then you'd have an argument.<br clear="all">

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Jeffrey Sims <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jeffy@tehintartubes.net" target="_blank">jeffy@tehintartubes.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir="ltr">Not to mention, P2P is used for file delivery for games like WoW, League of Legends etc.<div><br></div><div>So by stopping the downloaders, you're stopping the gamers too!</div><div><br></div>
<div>Telstra's big book of "101 ways to piss off its customer base (but really they have no choice but to be with Telstra until NBN comes out)"</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">


On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Chris Ricks <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:chris.ricks@securepay.com.au" target="_blank">chris.ricks@securepay.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



  
    
  
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    <div>They already do clamp down on
      peer-to-peer by counting uploads, surely?<div><div><br>
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      On 05/02/13 16:59, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<br>
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      <div>From the SMH @ <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/telstra-to-clamp-down-on-peertopeer-20130205-2dvus.html" target="_blank">http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/telstra-to-clamp-down-on-peertopeer-20130205-2dvus.html</a></div>



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        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">Telstra
          is planning to slow the speed at which its customers download
          content through <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer-to-peer" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(72,72,72);text-decoration:initial" target="_blank">peer-to-peer
            (P2P) networks</a> in peak periods as part of a trial.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">P2P
          networks are commonly used to download pirated material such
          as movies, music and video games.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
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        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">Telstra
          confirmed the move in a statement after a source contacted
          Fairfax Media, publisher of this article, to say the telco
          planned to introduce throttling as a "trial" that was likely
          to become permanent and which required users to opt out if
          they didn't want to take part in it.</p>
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        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">The
          trial could begin as soon as this week, the source added.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
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        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">The
          Telstra statement said it would be conducting a "limited trial
          of a range of technical options for better managing broadband
          internet performance for our customers during peak periods".</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
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        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">One
          option being looked at was the shaping of specific services,
          including some peer-to-peer services, in certain circumstances
          and at certain times. The telco could shape such services
          using <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep_packet_inspection" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(72,72,72);text-decoration:initial" target="_blank">deep
            packet inspection</a> (DPI) technology, which can identify
          the types of network traffic flowing through a network and
          prioritise it accordingly.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
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        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">"Once
          the trial is complete we will consider the results as part of
          our future network planning and product development
          activities," the company said.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
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        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">"The
          trial does not involve any monitoring or tracking of the sites
          customers visit and the findings we gather, including their
          feedback, are being collected in accordance with our privacy
          statement," Telstra said.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
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        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">Critics
          of ISPs that interfere with P2P say it has many uses that
          aren't illegal, such as downloading large files, and that it
          shouldn't be interfered with. But most acknowledge it is used
          for sharing copyright-protected material</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
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        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">Telstra's
          plan to shape peer-to-peer network traffic was first mooted by
          the industry publication <em style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">RCR
            Wireless</em> in May 2011, when Telstra executive director
          Michael Lawrey <a href="http://www.rcrwireless.com/unplugged/index.php/20110523/carriers/9137/telstra-proudly-declares-intent-to-cut-off-bandwidth-hogs/" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(72,72,72);text-decoration:initial" target="_blank">threatened
            in a speech</a> in Dublin to cut off "downloaders of illegal
          content", whom he reportedly blamed for network congestion.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
        </p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">The <em style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">RCR
            Wireless</em> article no longer appears online but Mr
          Lawrey's quotes remain on the Australian technology news
          website <em style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">iTnews</em>, <a href="http://www.itnews.com.au/News/258515,telstra-aims-throttling-at-its-hungriest-customers.aspx" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(72,72,72);text-decoration:initial" target="_blank">which
            repeated them</a>.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><em style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">RCR
            Wireless</em> quoted Mr Lawrey as saying Telstra would also
          take action against customers believed to be abusing the
          carrier's fair-use policies.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
        </p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">"We
          probably haven't even used our fair use small print yet. But
          we will," Mr Lawrey reportedly said.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
        </p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">He
          was also reported to have said that if the carrier's proposed
          system "cut out 80 per cent of the non-value adding traffic –
          good".</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
        </p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">According
          to the <em style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline">RCR
            Wireless</em> article, about 80 per cent of Telstra's data
          was chewed up by high bandwidth users.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
        </p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">"I'd
          rather not have those 80 per cent as customers. I'd rather
          someone else had them as customers," Mr Lawrey reportedly
          said.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
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        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">He
          did not say whether he was talking about fixed-line,
          smartphone customers or both.</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
        </p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">Exetel,
          a smaller ISP than Telstra, <a href="http://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/exetel_faq_prioritize" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(72,72,72);text-decoration:initial" target="_blank">used
            to throttle</a>, or "deprioritise", peer-to-peer traffic
          during peak periods. Its terms and conditions say it can still
          do so but a staff member last year <a href="https://forum.exetel.com.au/viewtopic.php?f=284&t=39103" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(72,72,72);text-decoration:initial" target="_blank">said
            on its forum that it did not shape</a> "any type of
          traffic".</p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px"><br>
        </p>
        <p style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-size:12px;font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;vertical-align:baseline;line-height:17px">Illegal
          downloading via BitTorrent networks has been in <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/game-of-thrones-crowned-king-of-downloads-20121224-2buay.html" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(72,72,72);text-decoration:initial" target="_blank">slight
            decline for some time</a>, though reports suggest there was
          a small rise in 2012. In part that would be fuelled by faster
          internet services worldwide and a migration away from
          traditional television in which some consumers now exclusively
          watch TV content via the internet.</p>
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          <br>
          Read more: <a href="http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/telstra-to-clamp-down-on-peertopeer-20130205-2dvus.html#ixzz2K09ebWjy" style="margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;font-style:inherit;font-family:inherit;vertical-align:baseline;color:rgb(0,51,153);text-decoration:initial" target="_blank">http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/telstra-to-clamp-down-on-peertopeer-20130205-2dvus.html#ixzz2K09ebWjy</a></span></div>



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