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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Also bear in mind the 5505 is not that grunty a box – I’ve experienced throughput limitations and if you’re running a half decent set of features, I suggest you’d be pushing it if you expect 100mbit throughput AND 50 odd concurrent VPNs.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net [mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Johann Lo<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 30 January 2013 15:02<br><b>To:</b> Greg Macsok; Glenn Powell; Pinkerton, Eric<br><b>Cc:</b> ausnog@lists.ausnog.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Cisco ASA 5505 licensing?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Bear in mind even the base license includes 10x IPSEC peers.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>There’s absolutely nothing wrong with IPSEC VPN, esp if you are running SSL as tunnel mode there’s not a lot of difference in terms of functionality (unless you have funny MTU issues or the like), the major advantage is where you’re in restricted connectivity environments you’re usually allowed to HTTPS out whereas IPSEC ports may be blocked.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Johann Lo</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><strong><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Senior IP Network Engineer</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td width=90 rowspan=4 style='width:67.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:10.5pt'><p align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><a href="http://www.aptel.com.au/" title=""><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=225 height=60 id="_x0000_i1025" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CDFEFE.614284B0"></span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></td><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> Asian Pacific Telecommunications</span></strong><o:p></o:p></p></td><td rowspan=4 style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><img border=0 width=248 height=46 id="_x0000_i1026" src="cid:image003.gif@01CDFEFE.614284B0"><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> Level 14, 1 Queens Road, Melbourne, Victoria, 3004</span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <strong><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>p:</span></strong> 03 9863 9863 <strong><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>f:</span></strong> 03 9863 7701 </span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr><tr style='height:10.5pt'><td valign=top style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm;height:10.5pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <strong><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>e:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:Johann.Lo@aptel.com.au">Johann.Lo@aptel.com.au</a> <strong><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>w:</span></strong> <a href="http://www.aptel.com.au">www.aptel.com.au</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=460 style='width:345.0pt;border-collapse:collapse;EMPTY-CELLS: show;float:none'><tr><td style='padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm'></td></tr></table><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width=600 style='width:450.0pt'><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt 75pt'><p style='margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Notices</span></b><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> – (1) If it appears that this email has been sent to you in error, please delete it (including any attachments) immediately and let the sender know by reply email. 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(3) If this email is not sent in direct connection with the company’s business, the company does not endorse the content.<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Macsok<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 30 January 2013 2:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> Glenn Powell; Pinkerton, Eric<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Cisco ASA 5505 licensing?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>There are various models of the 5505. The 5505-SEC-BUN-K9 supports unlimited inside hosts and 250 VPN sessions IIRC. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>You can upgrade any of the 5505’s to different tiers including unlimited. So if you pick up a cheap 5505 off Ebay and want to upgrade it to unlimited hosts, you can.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>By default, all models of the 5505 only supports 2 SSL VPN (Anyconnect) clients – if you want more you have to buy more Anyconnect licenses. Also if you have an iOS or Android device and want to use AnyConnect Mobile – that is also another separate license.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Greg<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net">mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Glenn Powell<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 30 January 2013 10:56 AM<br><b>To:</b> Pinkerton, Eric<br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Cisco ASA 5505 licensing?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Having been burnt myself, don't forget the 5505 is the only box that enforces a limit of 50 internal devices. So a company of 20 people will easily exhaust that when everyone has a PC, iPad, iPhone etc.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Definitely look at the 5510 if the budget allows.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Glenn.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 30 January 2013 13:52, Pinkerton, Eric <<a href="mailto:Eric.Pinkerton@baesystemsdetica.com" target="_blank">Eric.Pinkerton@baesystemsdetica.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:50pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/vpndevc/ps6032/ps6094/ps6120/prod_brochure0900aecd80402e39.html" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/vpndevc/ps6032/ps6094/ps6120/prod_brochure0900aecd80402e39.html</a></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My understanding is that you can configure 25 P2P VPN’s, </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>and up to 25 concurrent client VPN connected although you only get 2 out of the box, and have to buy additional licences for the rest.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog-bounces@lists.ausnog.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Joseph Goldman<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 30 January 2013 1:37 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@lists.ausnog.net</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Cisco ASA 5505 licensing?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Never had to spec this out myself, but a quick read of the models table here:<br><br><a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/prod_models_home.html" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/prod_models_home.html</a><br><br>Suggests that you can have a maximum of 10/25 Site-to-Site and IPsec (IKEv1 Client) VPN User Sessions<br>Then a maximum of 25 AnyConnect or Clientless VPN User Sessions.<br><br>This reads to me as 25 of each definition (being 25 of a mix of S2S and IPSEC, then another 25 of a mix of AnyConnect/Clientless), and being that it states sessions, would be current connected sessions and not named users.<br><br>Of course it is open to different interpretations but that is how I would read it.<br><br>On 30/01/13 1:23 PM, Skeeve Stevens wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hey all, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I have a customer wanting to spec out a Cisco ASA5505... the baby version.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Everything is good except the VPN licensing.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>On this page: <a href="http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/prod_models_comparisonhtml" target="_blank">http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6120/prod_models_comparison.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>It says that the 5505 is 25 VPN users for a few different types.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What it doesn't say is whether it is:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- 25 users max across all vpn types<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- whether it is PER vpn type or 25 across all types<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- whether the VPN is concurrent or named users<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>- whether the number is a MAXIMUM or what it comes with<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>The last one being the most important.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Essentially I have a customer with a size needing about a dozen VPN users.. concurrently... but the above link is very vague.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>This link: <a href="http://packetpushers.net/cisco-asa-licensing-explained/" target="_blank">http://packetpushers.net/cisco-asa-licensing-explained/</a> has some good information, but the Cisco link doesn't say anything about 10/25. It has more information about VPN licensing, it says the 5505 starts with 10, but the Cisco page doesn't seem to say that. I'd like confirmation before I tell the customer what to buy.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I am assuming some Ausnog people have had to do this sort of thing. 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