I can't find the tool that I used to work it out before, but cutting out the top 100 AS globally would allow the rest (somewhere around 40k IIRC?) something like 14x the number of IPs they have currently. I don't know about you, but that is an insane amount of growth, even in the budget VPS/DSL worlds. <br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Brad Evans <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:brad@delion.com.au" target="_blank">brad@delion.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Yes, while it's certainly not a solution, you can't say that the
equivalent of 200,000+ unallocated /24's is of no use to some
networks right now. I'd put my hand up for a few more. This would
be another /22 for every AS, with some to spare. <br>
<br>
One could argue that feeding the IPv4 pool removes the incentive to
go dual stack, but we already have gone dual stack and still have a
requirement for IPv4 because others haven't.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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<div>On 25/01/2013 6:22 PM, Joshua D'Alton
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<blockquote type="cite">I had some nice examples of why it would last more
than just a couple of months, but chrome crashed and it has been
gone into enough. It would work though for the majority of smaller
companies, most of the exhaustion comes from the large companies,
not the small ones. And its the large companies who can afford v6,
while the smaller companies cannot so much. You only need to look
at v6 implementation to see this.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Skeeve
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Exactly,
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<div>So recovering anything, is of no use or point whatsoever
as we'd be back in the same position within a couple of
months, regardless of justification, price, and so on.</div>
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PM, Julien Goodwin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ausnog@studio442.com.au" target="_blank">ausnog@studio442.com.au</a>></span>
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I did some analysis of this a while back:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://laptop006.livejournal.com/52380.html" target="_blank">http://laptop006.livejournal.com/52380.html</a><br>
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My summary was:<br>
"In terms of the coming IPv4 exhaustion we have 817
allocated /16's<br>
completely unused, for over 5.3M IP addresses, or
~3.2 entire /8's,<br>
giving, at the current consumption rate[6], just
under two and a half<br>
months more IPv4[7]."<br>
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On 25/01/13 16:58, Daniel Pearson wrote:<br>
> With all the interest in IP’s I thought it
would be good to share this<br>
> little story.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> A while back 6-8 months ago I did some digging
and found a spare /16 not<br>
> being used…. Yep that’s right a /16 with not
one active resource on it.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I approached the owner who is no longer in
business but found the<br>
> administrators and asked if they can release it
back to the pool and at<br>
> the same time transfer me a /20. They refused
point blank and said they<br>
> would be holding onto it as it could one day be
worth lots!<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> After talking with APNIC about it I was told
*(verbally) that they can<br>
> hold onto them even if they have no proven use
for them…. So I wonder<br>
> how many of these are out there.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> What really annoys me is we are running out and
are using every address<br>
> sparingly and here is a company who no longer
exists holding onto a /16<br>
> as one day it might be worth something….. go
figure.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> How many other examples of this exist?<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Discuss!<br>
><br>
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