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    Yes, while it's certainly not a solution, you can't say that the
    equivalent of 200,000+ unallocated /24's is of no use to some
    networks right now.  I'd put my hand up for a few more.  This would
    be another /22 for every AS, with some to spare.  <br>
    <br>
    One could argue that feeding the IPv4 pool removes the incentive to
    go dual stack, but we already have gone dual stack and still have a
    requirement for IPv4 because others haven't.<br>
    <br>
    -Brad<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/01/2013 6:22 PM, Joshua D'Alton
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      type="cite">I had some nice examples of why it would last more
      than just a couple of months, but chrome crashed and it has been
      gone into enough. It would work though for the majority of smaller
      companies, most of the exhaustion comes from the large companies,
      not the small ones. And its the large companies who can afford v6,
      while the smaller companies cannot so much. You only need to look
      at v6 implementation to see this.<br>
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      <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:02 PM, Skeeve
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          Exactly,
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          <div>So recovering anything, is of no use or point whatsoever
            as we'd be back in the same position within a couple of
            months, regardless of justification, price, and so on.</div>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 5:41
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                    I did some analysis of this a while back:<br>
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                      target="_blank">http://laptop006.livejournal.com/52380.html</a><br>
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                    My summary was:<br>
                    "In terms of the coming IPv4 exhaustion we have 817
                    allocated /16's<br>
                    completely unused, for over 5.3M IP addresses, or
                    ~3.2 entire /8's,<br>
                    giving, at the current consumption rate[6], just
                    under two and a half<br>
                    months more IPv4[7]."<br>
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                    On 25/01/13 16:58, Daniel Pearson wrote:<br>
                    > With all the interest in IP’s I thought it
                    would be good to share this<br>
                    > little story.<br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    > A while back 6-8 months ago I did some digging
                    and found a spare /16 not<br>
                    > being used…. Yep that’s right a /16 with not
                    one active resource on it.<br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    > I approached the owner who is no longer in
                    business but found the<br>
                    > administrators and asked if they can release it
                    back to the pool and at<br>
                    > the same time transfer me a /20. They refused
                    point blank and said they<br>
                    > would be holding onto it as it could one day be
                    worth lots!<br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    > After talking with APNIC about it I was told
                    *(verbally) that they can<br>
                    > hold onto them even if they have no proven use
                    for them…. So I wonder<br>
                    > how many of these are out there.<br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    > What really annoys me is we are running out and
                    are using every address<br>
                    > sparingly and here is a company who no longer
                    exists holding onto a /16<br>
                    > as one day it might be worth something….. go
                    figure.<br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    > How many other examples of this exist?<br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    ><br>
                    > Discuss!<br>
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