One of the things that has been pointed out at the APNIC conferences, and is brought up regularly is that: Releasing ranges back to the pool is if little or no use.<div><br></div><div>Even if 10 /16's were released back to APNIC... firstly, APNIC policy doesn't allow them to be allocated... I think they are actually handed back to IANA.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Let's say that is the case... they go to IANA... lets pretend IANA could collect a couple of /8's or more and give them back to the RIR's for distribution.</div><div><br></div><div>APNIC could be given 100 /16's tomorrow and they would disappear in the blink of an eye. Not because of any greed, but due to legitimate requirements of some VERY fast growing economies.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I believe, as do many of the others who go to the APNIC conferences, that it is better to stick with the current run-out process and force people to move to IPv6, rather than putting band-aids by trying to extend IPv4 are the RIR level.</div>
<div><br></div><div>There are short term solutions already:</div><div><br></div><div>- Get your final /22</div><div>- New companies can get a /22</div><div>- You buy some IPv4 of the open market</div><div>- You invest in CGN/LSN to extend the life of your v4 (not an 'alternative' that some stupid journalists suggested in the last week)</div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM, Daniel Pearson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dpearson@pingco.com.au" target="_blank">dpearson@pingco.com.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal">With all the interest in IP’s I thought it would be good to share this little story.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">A while back 6-8 months ago I did some digging and found a spare /16 not being used…. Yep that’s right a /16 with not one active resource on it.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I approached the owner who is no longer in business but found the administrators and asked if they can release it back to the pool and at the same time transfer me a /20. They refused point blank and said they would be holding onto it as
it could one day be worth lots!<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">After talking with APNIC about it I was told *(verbally) that they can hold onto them even if they have no proven use for them…. So I wonder how many of these are out there.
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<p class="MsoNormal">What really annoys me is we are running out and are using every address sparingly and here is a company who no longer exists holding onto a /16 as one day it might be worth something….. go figure.<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">How many other examples of this exist?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Discuss!<u></u><u></u></p>
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