Hey Tony,<div><br></div><div>Your right... I've only been to every APNIC meeting around the region for the last 3ish years. I've proposed policy and got it through, and I am presently a co-chair of the APNIC Policy Committee. Some on this list have been going for much much longer.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Maybe this is a good time to suggest that if anyone has any policy ideas, they need to be submitted soon - see my post from a week or two ago ;-)<br clear="all"><div><div><font face="Calibri"><b><br><br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM, Tony <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:td_miles@yahoo.com" target="_blank">td_miles@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif">You are allowed to transfer IP addresses between APNIC account holders:<br><br><a href="http://www.apnic.net/services/services-apnic-provides/helpdesk/faqs/obtaining-resources---faqs#more22" target="_blank">http://www.apnic.net/services/services-apnic-provides/helpdesk/faqs/obtaining-resources---faqs#more22</a><br>
<a href="http://www.apnic.net/policy/transfer-policy#ipv4" target="_blank">http://www.apnic.net/policy/transfer-policy#ipv4</a><br><br>I would assume that the receiving entity needs to meet the allocation requirements for the transfer to be approved (ie. used up existing space, qualifies for more, can't get it direct from APNIC).<br>
<br>The APNIC site doesn't mention payment at all, but then they don't NOT mention payment. That's pretty moot anyway, you transfer the address space and then company A sends an invoice to company B for "consulting work" and it gets paid that way.<br>
<br>Skeeve appears to be fairly active with APNIC (from what I see on this list anyway) so I'd think he's checked all this out to make sure it's legit
?<br><br><br>regards,<br>Tony.<br><div><span><br></span></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:16px;background-color:transparent;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><br><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16,16,255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px">
<div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif;font-size:12pt"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Jacob Gardiner <<a href="mailto:jacob@jacobgardiner.com" target="_blank">jacob@jacobgardiner.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Skeeve Stevens <<a href="mailto:skeeve%2Bausnog@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellego.net</a>> <br><b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b> "<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:ausnog@ausnog.net" target="_blank">ausnog@ausnog.net</a>> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 21 January 2013 7:49 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AusNOG] /20 Available<br> </font> </div> <br><div><div dir="ltr">That's not really a good parallel. <div><br></div><div>The only thing that you need to 'register' a domain name is a credit card, and in some cases not even that. There's also no shortages of domain names. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm fairly certain that APNIC 'owns' our regions IP addresses, not you or your clients.</div></div><div><br><br><div>On 21 January 2013 08:46, Skeeve Stevens <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellego.net" target="_blank">skeeve+ausnog@eintellego.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Do you 'own' a domain name? or the rights to use it?<div><br></div><div>and do you have the right to 'sell' those rights?<div>
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<br><br></div><div><div><div>On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 8:42 AM, Jacob Gardiner <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:jacob@jacobgardiner.com" target="_blank">jacob@jacobgardiner.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I'm curious as to how you can sell something that you don't own?<div><br></div><div>To be honest, i'm not familiar with the policies around IP allocations, but i'm fairly certain that they're just that - an allocation not an ownership.<br>
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