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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I would think content broadcasters
would be right on to the multicast facility. They dont want their
content on the mean bad internet in any case they are scared of it
by nature. The multicast option is a good option for NBN to sell
there service to players like foxtel without the need to mention
the nasty "I" Word. Remember these guys (foxtel) are allready
pissed with the government for turning their HFC network into
scrap copper. They are going to be a hard sell to begin with. Of
cause this could all change with a change of government. Make's
it hard for people to know which way to jump.<br>
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On 20/12/12 12:12 AM, Michael Kahl wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAE=7oFjCWL7d29Z7eFoBANbQ68a6P5UWAR0gkF-7CoeCDSRC7A@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">There may be benefits to peering within an NBN POI at
some stage in the future if full end to end connectivity is
restored (no NAT) or if there's a peer to peer "killer app" that
dramatically changes traffic patterns, but for now even for the
biggest players I'm guessing the traffic levels would make it
difficult to even justify the port costs of peering within a POI,
let alone buying cross connects, rackspace, etc.
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<div>What seems really shortsighted of the NBN is that there's
basically no provision for directly serving content to the end
user out of the POI, and looking at most of the sites even if
the NBN wanted to allow it they're going to be severely limited
by lack of power and space with the sites they've chosen.</div>
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<div>This might not be a huge issue today in Australia seeing as
there's very limited options available for streaming HD content,
but it's only a matter of time. What happens when we have a
Netflix available over here? Or even when Foxtel work out that
broadcasting content is a thing of the past and people want the
content they pay for available when they want it, ie streaming
on demand. </div>
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<div>In the US the CDN's are already pushing into the local
exchanges to keep up with the growing demand, but what happens
next here? Is NBN confident in its bet that we won't need local
content in the network that it says will be getting us through
the next 50 years?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM,
Tom Sykes <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tomsykes@nbnco.com.au" target="_blank">tomsykes@nbnco.com.au</a>></span>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This
is one of the reasons why we are installing a series of
RSP co-location racks in all the POIs (I.e to enable
someone to setup a peering point of they wished. We
understand traffic volumes today may not necessarily
justify it just yet though)<br>
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<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">Tom Sykes<br>
NBN Co Limited<br>
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On 19/12/2012, at 5:43 PM, "Joseph Goldman" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:joe@apcs.com.au">joe@apcs.com.au</a>>
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> The problem seems as you suggest, having full
L3 gear at each POI, possible for some, not for
others who would probably rather L2 link it straight
back to a more central POP.<br>
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> However the idea has merit, I believe Adam
Internet do a similar thing with their ADSL2+
Infrastructure in South Australia. I only read a
little bit about it but I believe it is what you are
talking about (exchange based peering) but they
control it in the sense of having a community server
in that area (newsgroups or DC or <other p2p
protocol>. I can't seem to find much info on it
now though.<br>
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> On 19/12/12 5:38 PM, Jake Anderson wrote:<br>
>> So I was wondering and the list seems
quiet.<br>
>> With P2P content (games, skype etc not just
torrents) soaking a decent amount of traffic, and
the NBN having relatively few "exchanges" if you
will, I wonder about the possibility of peering at
that level.<br>
>><br>
>> IE within each POI everybody sees if the
traffic actually needs to leave said POI.<br>
>> Presumably routers and such would need to
be configured automatically but I wonder how much of
a gain there would be from it.<br>
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