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<p><font face="Arial">Hi<span class="133082101-02122012"> Skeeve,<br>
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I appreciate your response, are you able to respond to the specific questions raised, I would feel that your response only covers item (a) in my original request.
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Can you please also clarify your response to item (a)? My understanding in your response is that you indicate that ingress and egress monitoring is sufficient. If this is the case, I would disagree as there are many scenarios where a potential security incident
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<font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Skeeve Stevens [mailto:skeeve+ausnog@eintellego.net]
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 2 December 2012 11:29 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Chris Macko<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AusNOG] Is CCTV a Necessity in a Data Centre?<br>
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<div>I think CCTV is important... but you have to ask a more Micro questions... where?</div>
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<div>Ingress/Egress, definitely. Every rack? I don't think so. As long as you can verify who went in and out, and where they went... i.e. which room, then you are fine.</div>
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<div>No one wants to be constantly watched as they do their job, and let's be honest here... video of an engineer sitting on the floor typing on a laptop, or inside a rack playing with things, isn't exactly going to give you much information about what they
are doing, and anything it does, is unlikely to be in context.</div>
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<div>I've seen people even have cameras in their rack looking out... never sure what that was for. I used to have one in a rack opposite where I used to regularly work in Global Switch, so I just stuck a bit of paper over it. No idea whose it was, but they
didn't have a right to film me doing my work. It is also illegal since they don't have a sign saying they are doing it, and I am sure they don't have a covert surveillance warrant.</div>
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<div>Reference: <a href="http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/fullhtml/inforce/act+47+2005+FIRST+0+N">http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/fullhtml/inforce/act+47+2005+FIRST+0+N</a></div>
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<div>When it comes to DC's, I am not sure what defines a workplace however... and surveillance when people have cameras inside their racks looking out, may be illegal.</div>
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<div>Essentially, if you can't trust the DC's security, you probably shouldn't be using that DC.</div>
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<div>Who went where, most importantly, when, is all you need.</div>
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<p><font face="Arial">Hi<span> All,<br>
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I'm performing a small case study and would really appreciate if you're able to provide your feedback in relation to the following questions regarding CCTV within a data centre;<br>
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a) Is CCTV (recording) a necessity within a data centre? <br>
b) Would you feel it's appropriate if a data centre provider didn't have CCTV as part of their service provision and soly relied on physical access logs for physical security auditting?
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c) Would you state that CCTV is simply implied as a standard inclusion when it comes to the provision of data centre services?
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My personal experience is that CCTV is necessary within data centre services in order to investigate potential physical security breaches in events where physical access logs don't provide the necessary information being investigated. I also feel that a data
centre without CCTV would be akin to a human without oxygen, in that both co-exist and are co-dependent.<br>
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I would however really appreciate your thoughts and feedback. Thank you! <br>
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</span></font><font face="Arial">Kind Regards,</font></p>
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